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    Quote Originally Posted by Irruchi View Post
    Well my "Faulty" PC is fine on EVERY THING ELSE
    Interesting how when you look around tons of posts stating DX11 errors.... Obviously they must have broken systems too that somehow only have issues with 1 game?

    So I don't expect anyone to "fix" my "faulty pc" as to if I contact ANYONE they will without a doubt point straight to the program and not the hardware. Even their own support staff suggests more software related fixes than pointing straight to the hardware first... how interesting that they even contradict you people claiming that a huge amount of people have "fault" hardware.
    Once again it seems I must say this. It doesn't matter if your PC is "fine" with everything else! Stop saying that because it means absolutely NOTHING! Faulty hardware can 100% without a doubt be triggered by ONE single thing! Hell, I've known people who've had hardware issues being triggered just from YouTube videos and only them so it really doesn't matter AT ALL if everything else is fine! And yes, it is absolutely possible and almost certainly a fact that all the people with DX11 crashes have faulty/unstable hardware in their PCs. And again, it is entirely, 100% possible for only a SINGLE thing to trigger the faulty/unstable hardware!

    Also, if these people you contact point at the game, they clearly don't know ANYTHING about PCs and shouldn't be trusted with any complex electronics! Also, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the forum support staff here aren't even proper support staff. They're just people that have been hired and given list of support responses to reply with in topics here. Or haven't you noticed the fact they only ever reply with the same responses and messages all the time to everyone? So you can't even use the official forum support staff here to support your false claims of it being the game at fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaenbyou View Post
    Once again it seems I must say this. It doesn't matter if your PC is "fine" with everything else! Stop saying that because it means absolutely NOTHING! Faulty hardware can 100% without a doubt be triggered by ONE single thing! Hell, I've known people who've had hardware issues being triggered just from YouTube videos and only them so it really doesn't matter AT ALL if everything else is fine! And yes, it is absolutely possible and almost certainly a fact that all the people with DX11 crashes have faulty/unstable hardware in their PCs. And again, it is entirely, 100% possible for only a SINGLE thing to trigger the faulty/unstable hardware!

    Also, if these people you contact point at the game, they clearly don't know ANYTHING about PCs and shouldn't be trusted with any complex electronics! Also, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but the forum support staff here aren't even proper support staff. They're just people that have been hired and given list of support responses to reply with in topics here. Or haven't you noticed the fact they only ever reply with the same responses and messages all the time to everyone? So you can't even use the official forum support staff here to support your false claims of it being the game at fault.
    Look around. IT ISNT ONLY ME RUNNING INTO DX11 ERRORS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irruchi View Post
    Look around. IT ISNT ONLY ME RUNNING INTO DX11 ERRORS.
    Never said you were the only one. I'm not blind, I see all the other topics and people reporting DX11 errors. Thing is, DX11 errors are an issue caused by unstable/faulty hardware regardless of the game causing them. Could be ANY other DX11 game causing crashes to happen and it'd still be the same reason. Faulty/unstable hardware. So all those other people having DX11 crashes/errors/etc. also have unstable/faulty hardware.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaenbyou View Post
    Never said you were the only one. I'm not blind, I see all the other topics and people reporting DX11 errors. Thing is, DX11 errors are an issue caused by unstable/faulty hardware regardless of the game causing them. Could be ANY other DX11 game causing crashes to happen and it'd still be the same reason. Faulty/unstable hardware. So all those other people having DX11 crashes/errors/etc. also have unstable/faulty hardware.
    You are aware that the game can itself run into an issue on client side that isn't hardware related.
    DX11 is an coding, FFXIV is code running on an engine that requires to utilize the coding for the API on both dx9 and DX11. You know what.. I give up on you guys. Thankfully keeping stuff like discord and stuff closed seems to have made it stable. Software.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irruchi View Post
    You are aware that the game can itself run into an issue on client side that isn't hardware related.
    DX11 is an coding, FFXIV is code running on an engine that requires to utilize the coding for the API on both dx9 and DX11. You know what.. I give up on you guys. Thankfully keeping stuff like discord and stuff closed seems to have made it stable. Software.
    none of which can manifest the specific symptoms being described


    The game has a bug which increases CPU utilisation and the reliance on stable memory and cpu configuration as a result.

    On stable systems this bug does not cause crashes (Bsod or otherwise) even on systems that are overclocked.

    The Ryzen platform has had problems from the start and continues to have some .

    Thats not to mention that Zen 2 had voltage related issues with certain mainboards set to auto and people are still using Gen 4 incompatible Risers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puss_Kat View Post
    none of which can manifest the specific symptoms being described


    The game has a bug which increases CPU utilisation and the reliance on stable memory and cpu configuration as a result.

    On stable systems this bug does not cause crashes (Bsod or otherwise) even on systems that are overclocked.

    The Ryzen platform has had problems from the start and continues to have some .

    Thats not to mention that Zen 2 had voltage related issues with certain mainboards set to auto and people are still using Gen 4 incompatible Risers
    You mentioned a bug.... Soooooooo coding... Game issue. Needs fixed as no other game really runs into this.

    Thank you come again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irruchi View Post
    You mentioned a bug.... Soooooooo coding... Game issue. Needs fixed as no other game really runs into this.

    Thank you come again.
    Oh, how convenient that you ignored everything else Puss_Kat said in their message. Hate to break it to ya but the issue doesn't exist on non-faulty hardware as they clearly stated so it's a computer hardware issue. Your computer needs fixing as no one with stable/non-faulty hardware runs into this issue. Thank you come again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaenbyou View Post
    Oh, how convenient that you ignored everything else Puss_Kat said in their message. Hate to break it to ya but the issue doesn't exist on non-faulty hardware as they clearly stated so it's a computer hardware issue. Your computer needs fixing as no one with stable/non-faulty hardware runs into this issue. Thank you come again.
    Sorry the most people aren't running optimal hardware even if it waaaaay overshoots the recommended.
    But you guys in camp faulty hardware sayers, miss the fact that how all others titles and even software and diagnostics don't have faults, yet this one game which is software runs into the same issue for many people.

    Huh.... How interesting... Maybe I should toss out my PC and buy another 20+ systems till I somehow have the special gem of a system you guys supposedly talk about.
    There's even some people who fixed the issue for weeks without the error only for it to show it's ugly messages again.
    So obviously their hardware must have obviously in your eyes gone and took a dump and now they need a new system?

    You guys have some interesting mental gymnastics going on to come to these conclusions that somehow it's a problem with the hardware and software can never cause system instability ever......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irruchi View Post
    Sorry the most people aren't running optimal hardware even if it waaaaay overshoots the recommended.
    But you guys in camp faulty hardware sayers, miss the fact that how all others titles and even software and diagnostics don't have faults, yet this one game which is software runs into the same issue for many people.

    Huh.... How interesting... Maybe I should toss out my PC and buy another 20+ systems till I somehow have the special gem of a system you guys supposedly talk about.
    There's even some people who fixed the issue for weeks without the error only for it to show it's ugly messages again.
    So obviously their hardware must have obviously in your eyes gone and took a dump and now they need a new system?

    You guys have some interesting mental gymnastics going on to come to these conclusions that somehow it's a problem with the hardware and software can never cause system instability ever......
    This has nothing to do with "optimal hardware" though. You are completely missing the point here. There is a piece of hardware or multiple pieces INSIDE your computer that is faulty. That is the problem here. Nothing more, nothing less. You need to figure out and find what the faulty piece of hardware INSIDE your computer is and replace it. That's all you need to do and then your issues will go away. Why is that so hard for you to grasp? Genuine question here because you really seem to not understand this at all.
    And you also seem to completely be unable to grasp the fact that it is entirely possible for a single program, regardless of what it is, to cause hardware faults to manifest.

    Again, this has nothing to do with optimal hardware or a godly computer. It is simply a piece of hardware in your current setup that is faulty. GPU, Motherboard, CPU, a combo....you just need to find what it is that is faulty. How hard is that for you to understand? Also, just because these other people found "fixes" doesn't anything because most of them are temporary unless they've actually replaced a part they thought was the cause but then had the issue crop up again which means the part they replaced either wasn't the cause or was just one piece of hardware causing the issue.

    You have some interesting mental gymnastics to believe that DX11 software can cause system instability by itself because spoiler alert: IT CAN'T! It is a 100% proven fact that DX11 software CANNOT cause system instablity unless the hardware in your computer is faulty!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RinKaenbyou View Post
    This has nothing to do with "optimal hardware" though. You are completely missing the point here. There is a piece of hardware or multiple pieces INSIDE your computer that is faulty. That is the problem here. Nothing more, nothing less. You need to figure out and find what the faulty piece of hardware INSIDE your computer is and replace it. That's all you need to do and then your issues will go away. Why is that so hard for you to grasp? Genuine question here because you really seem to not understand this at all.
    And you also seem to completely be unable to grasp the fact that it is entirely possible for a single program, regardless of what it is, to cause hardware faults to manifest.

    Again, this has nothing to do with optimal hardware or a godly computer. It is simply a piece of hardware in your current setup that is faulty. GPU, Motherboard, CPU, a combo....you just need to find what it is that is faulty. How hard is that for you to understand? Also, just because these other people found "fixes" doesn't anything because most of them are temporary unless they've actually replaced a part they thought was the cause but then had the issue crop up again which means the part they replaced either wasn't the cause or was just one piece of hardware causing the issue.

    You have some interesting mental gymnastics to believe that DX11 software can cause system instability by itself because spoiler alert: IT CAN'T! It is a 100% proven fact that DX11 software CANNOT cause system instablity unless the hardware in your computer is faulty!
    Software pulling and using that api still can though. and like I said, if I already came up empty handed for any faults in any of my hardware.... I have every right to point to software.
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