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    Quote Originally Posted by DBriggs304 View Post
    If they did that, then the devs would have to start designing the game without the MSQ as a factor. That's the entire point of this game. If it's like a skip after a one time play through, then I could see that being cool. If it's to skip the MSQ entirely, then peeps are playing the wrong game.
    No? They can absolutely keep the game MSQ-centric while allowing players to skip it would they wish to, it could literally function like the other skips work, I really fail to see how people having a choice to forego the story and have everything gated behind the MSQ unlocked right away would affect people who do not wish to skip it.

    I'd LOVE to be able to skip the MSQ and I'm ready to bet I'm playing the game a lot more and partaking in a wider breadth of content than the people adamant about it needing to remain mandatory. The MSQ is not the whole game, very, very far from it. It gives a meaning to content, but if the content is fun in the first place, a meaning isn't a necessity, it's just a plus. I want to skip the MSQ, but that doesn't make XIV a game that isn't for me, far from it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    No? They can absolutely keep the game MSQ-centric while allowing players to skip it would they wish to, it could literally function like the other skips work, I really fail to see how people having a choice to forego the story and have everything gated behind the MSQ unlocked right away would affect people who do not wish to skip it.

    I'd LOVE to be able to skip the MSQ and I'm ready to bet I'm playing the game a lot more and partaking in a wider breadth of content than the people adamant about it needing to remain mandatory. The MSQ is not the whole game, very, very far from it. It gives a meaning to content, but if the content is fun in the first place, a meaning isn't a necessity, it's just a plus. I want to skip the MSQ, but that doesn't make XIV a game that isn't for me, far from it.
    I'm going to assume, based on your join date, that this is your first expansion launch in XIV. I'm curious about the "wider breadth of content" that you're referring to.
    Two dungeons/two extreme trials at lvl 90, leveling alt jobs (combat/crafters/gatherers), ranking up zones by farming FATEs, doing early hunts for uncapped tomestones, leveling up trusts. Some would consider a few of these examples to be stretching what could be considered content in the first place.

    The things you're likely referring to:
    Normal raiding, savage raiding, capped tomestone/expert roulette, new treasure map dungeon, new PvP mode. The first not being available until two weeks after the official launch, the following three releasing in the first week of January, and the last one being a feature for 6.1 or later.


    Also making the MSQ optional would definitely alter the game's development. While a part of the playerbase would be content with going through the MSQ at launch, another part of the playerbase that ends up skipping the MSQ would likely not be content with what's available at the endgame during launch. Those players would then complain to SE, and ask for them to release more content for them at launch. This would set a precedent where the development focus could easily shift from being mainly focused on the MSQ, to moving resources away from the MSQ, to develop more content to appeal the ones skipping the MSQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    I'm going to assume, based on your join date, that this is your first expansion launch in XIV. I'm curious about the "wider breadth of content" that you're referring to.
    Two dungeons/two extreme trials at lvl 90, leveling alt jobs (combat/crafters/gatherers), ranking up zones by farming FATEs, doing early hunts for uncapped tomestones, leveling up trusts. Some would consider a few of these examples to be stretching what could be considered content in the first place.

    The things you're likely referring to:
    Normal raiding, savage raiding, capped tomestone/expert roulette, new treasure map dungeon, new PvP mode. The first not being available until two weeks after the official launch, the following three releasing in the first week of January, and the last one being a feature for 6.1 or later.
    It's entirely irrelevant that it's an expansion launch, because on 6.1, I'd still have to spend time doing the MSQ to access the content I like. Time I'd rather spend doing something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    It's entirely irrelevant that it's an expansion launch, because on 6.1, I'd still have to spend time doing the MSQ to access the content I like. Time I'd rather spend doing something else.
    The MSQ content of a x.1 patch, and subsequent patches, generally doesn't take as long as the MSQ content of a x.0 patch. That still doesn't explain this "wider breadth of content" that you could be spending your time on during the initial expansion launch, if you were able to skip the MSQ right away. Unless you're referring to time spent in other games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nezerius View Post
    The MSQ content of a x.1 patch, and subsequent patches, generally doesn't take as long as the MSQ content of a x.0 patch. That still doesn't explain this "wider breadth of content" that you could be spending your time on during the initial expansion launch, if you were able to skip the MSQ right away. Unless you're referring to time spent in other games.
    I never said "during the initial expansion launch", I never mentioned the expansion launch. As for the variety of what I do, my achievements are public.

    It's not about being able to skip the MSQ "right away", it's about being able to skip it, period, because whether I'd hypothetically skip it on .0 or .1, I'd skip it regardless, and save time regardless. And since I play plenty of jobs, I'd like not to waste a ton of hours that I could spend leveling, crafting, gathering, farming, etc., without even mentioning stuff outside of the game, skipping cutscenes and running from point a to point b.
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    I really don't see why MSQ skip couldn't be an option for those that aren't interested in it. A player knowing or not knowing the lore/MSQ does not affect anyone else.

    I levelled my alts 100% via dungeons and enjoyed that way more. It also helped me learn the jobs better and faster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZedxKayn View Post
    I never said "during the initial expansion launch", I never mentioned the expansion launch. As for the variety of what I do, my achievements are public.

    It's not about being able to skip the MSQ "right away", it's about being able to skip it, period, because whether I'd hypothetically skip it on .0 or .1, I'd skip it regardless, and save time regardless. And since I play plenty of jobs, I'd like not to waste a ton of hours that I could spend leveling, crafting, gathering, farming, etc., without even mentioning stuff outside of the game, skipping cutscenes and running from point a to point b.
    Then you'll just have to live with the fact that a MSQ skip for the current expansion won't be available until the next expansion's release. As for SE's reason for holding it back for that long? It's entirely possible that their system can only skip a character past entire expansions, rather than partial skips. It could also be that they don't want to continuously add a MSQ skip item to the cash shop with every single major patch.
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