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    ApolloGenX's Avatar
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    I have to say, I was a bit surprised by this scene.... It was heavy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Conundrum View Post
    You can't wrap the world in bubble wrap.

    Also, I'm personally 100% sure that people who claim to have mental issues on the internet are self diagnosed. For some twisted reason, it's like a badge of honor on the modern internet to claim some sort of issue.
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  3. #123
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    We really need to step down for a bit and look back.
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  4. #124
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    Berteaux Braumegain
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    Garlemald spoilers in the tag.

    I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion that Quintus's suicide made things better for everyone. Quintus giving everyone the freedom of choice to accept help from the Eorzeans is what turned things around. His suicide is presented as him being rigid and unwilling to compromise on his faulty beliefs despite seeing that the remaining legions had. Everyone even points out that they wanted to offer aid before he did something rash that he couldn't take back.
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  5. #125
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    No

    It isn't needed.
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    No offense, but if people need trigger warnings to play a video game, then the game isn't for you. Games already give you a content and ratings warning, you don't need a trigger warning.
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  7. #127
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    why everyone so sensitive ? I’ve struggled with depression for 11 years and this didn’t bother me.
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  8. #128
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    Suicide once had a long tradition Japan as the honorable out. Endwalker’s scene seemed like a direct rebuke of that. Far from being honorable the moment is shown as one man’s disgrace. He abandons his people to their fate because he’s too rigid to accept change.

    I felt this scene was written by a Japanese author for their audience. To challenge an outdated former cultural norm. It wasn’t written for the NA audience.

    To the Japanese audience I suspect it carries a different weight.
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    I don't believe that the story was seeking to blame Quintus or the other Garleans who were reluctant to accept aid from the Ilsabard Contingent.

    Endwalker finale spoilers below:

    Especially when Endwalker ends with Alphinaud reflecting upon the situation and returning to the region with his sister:





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  10. #130
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    Suicide once had a long tradition Japan as the honorable out. Endwalker’s scene seemed like a direct rebuke of that. Far from being honorable the moment is shown as one man’s disgrace. He abandons his people to their fate because he’s too rigid to accept change.

    I felt this scene was written by a Japanese author for their audience. To challenge an outdated former cultural norm. It wasn’t written for the NA audience.

    To the Japanese audience I suspect it carries a different weight.
    He didn’t abandon them though necessarily. Lucia even says afterwards that he may have done what he did to give his people the freedom they deserved so they would be taken in, because while under his command they wouldn’t back down. He was giving them hope in a roundabout way. It was the honorable way out for him, he passed on whilst still staying firm to his beliefs instead of living in a world where his beliefs would be tarnished and altered.
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