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  1. #21
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    Selova's Avatar
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    Mar 2017
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    Veliona Umrtia
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    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 100
    No idea where the frustration is even coming from, all you do is stealth>incapacitate then click the things. Are people seriously struggling with this?
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  2. #22
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    Riastrad's Avatar
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    Mercutio Montealvo
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    No idea where the frustration is even coming from, all you do is stealth>incapacitate then click the things. Are people seriously struggling with this?
    This is a different scenario fight than the one I think you are thinking of.
    (20)
    Just my opinion. Won't lose sleep if you don't like it.

  3. #23
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    I wish they didnt put easy in and made casuals git gud
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  4. #24
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    Raiel's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Raiel Loire
    World
    Twintania
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    This thread is a perfect encapsulation of why the game has been getting aggressively easier and easier with each passing year, any modicum of a challenge and there are cries of anguish. This quest was done brilliantly and paying even the smallest bit of attention and reading the text is enough to get by which apparently is unacceptable.
    (58)

  5. #25
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    Kiddo_TO's Avatar
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    May 2021
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Character
    Aeluv Khestir
    World
    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Favorite solo duty in the whole game so far, actually engaging unlike some of the ShB ones.
    (28)

  6. #26
    Player
    Novae's Avatar
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    Feb 2019
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    Gridania
    Posts
    330
    Character
    Novae Ombreloup
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 90
    I didn't mind the challenge, even if overall, I didn't enjoy it. My problem comes from the "reason" behind it. It was like " hello, we can suddenly do this to you now, enjoy !". It felt, I don't know... cheap?
    (18)

  7. #27
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    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Feb 2015
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    Character
    Deviously Enchanted
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    There was nothing innately challenging or difficult about this quest it was entirely made up of artificial difficulty and completely just a lesson in patience there was no skill required to get it done just patience and maybe some luck depending on how you think about it.

    Being able to click a pvp combo, a mitigation button, a damage buff button, and a potion does not take skill nor is it challenging.
    Being able to find potions does not take skill & is not challenging it's merely a test of patience.
    Dodging mob aggro does not take skill, is not challenging, and is not fun because you don't know if the mobs are LoS or sound based or both.

    There was nothing difficult or challenging about the quest it was just needlessly unfun and filled with artificial difficulty.

    I'm playing FFXIV not Thief, not Deus Ex Machina, not Dishonored, I'm playing FFXIV if I wanted to play a stealth game that requires skill and is challenging I would play one of those games.

    Difficult and challenging content does not require you to be under a handicap.

    The difficult and challenging content being requested by the community can stand on its own merit, it requires you to rise up to the challenge rather than being dragged down to its level.

    Do not conflate the two.

    There are plenty of needlessly unfun mechanics in MSQ instances that require you to restart simply because you it was your first time doing it or there was a gimmick and this is just another one.
    (33)

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    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

  8. #28
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    Missbone's Avatar
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    Sep 2013
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    594
    Character
    Fiona Silverstorm
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    i started to fail all instanced dutys deliberately because i dont want to deal with them and save some time. I dont understand why there is no option to switch dutis to very easy right from the start instead of normal. It took me 5 minutes to even figure out what i need to do in this one.
    (6)

  9. #29
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    Coronal's Avatar
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    Aug 2013
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    Character
    Uvitica Kiticus
    World
    Kujata
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 56
    It took two tries for me. I was getting a bit worried when I saw how long the crawl was going to be if you had to go the whole distance.

    It was innovative, a different 'play from another perspective' attempt.

    That said I didn't particularly enjoy it. Oh well.
    (4)
    "I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.”
    ― Terry Pratchett

  10. #30
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    KihraJhin's Avatar
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    Dec 2014
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    Character
    K'ihra Jhin
    World
    Shiva
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SamSmoot View Post
    Seriously considering quitting the game over this one.
    Same here. with all the bullshit up to that point, this quest takes the cake and ruined everything for me.
    (9)

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