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    Liked the instance, hated everything surrounding it. If it were as simple as just pluck our soul out, and into a new body, and one where we have seemingly no combat prowess (yet Zenos retains as much of his prowess as ever), then why wouldn't Fandaniel, or any Ascian for that matter do it in the beginning. I dislike it simply because it does in fact beg that question.

    I get the purpose of it, in that it shows a vulnerable side of our character. Albeit terribly handled given that it was only ever by the 'luxury' of our character not even inhibiting their own body. I also feel like they were just building up anticipation for our actual desire to cross swords with Zenos once more. But to be frank that only ended up as another reason on my plate as to why I just simply want rid of him.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 12-14-2021 at 08:59 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Liked the instance, hated everything surrounding it. If it were as simple as just pluck our soul out, and into a new body, and one where we have seemingly no combat prowess (yet Zenos retains as much of his prowess as ever), then why wouldn't Fandaniel, or any Ascian for that matter do it in the beginning. I dislike it simply because it does in fact beg that question.
    It was done with the soul extraction process of Aulus from Stormblood and he got killed by us, which likely resulted in his research being lost for a bit. Presumably the technology hadn't been completed until some point while we were on the First or at some point after we got back. Keep in mind that even with Ascian aid, it wore off after half an hour.

    Really, my only issue with that stretch of plot is that Zenos takes your body, and then you immediately get it back and he's like "Well, that happened. See you later, best frenemy.". Cool sequence, but it resolves really easily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berteaux_Braumegain View Post
    It was done with the soul extraction process of Aulus from Stormblood and he got killed by us, which likely resulted in his research being lost for a bit. Presumably the technology hadn't been completed until some point while we were on the First or at some point after we got back. Keep in mind that even with Ascian aid, it wore off after half an hour.

    Really, my only issue with that stretch of plot is that Zenos takes your body, and then you immediately get it back and he's like "Well, that happened. See you later, best frenemy.". Cool sequence, but it resolves really easily.
    I would like to think it was incomplete, taking into account that when he attempted it our soul rebelled. I was always hoping they'd expand on this in some way, shape or form, but in the end nothing.

    Now this also highlights another issue I take with the whole thing. Regardless of their intent with it. It ended up being completely inconsequential. That whole sequence of events could have been left out entirely and would likely have only made the story better, to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    I would like to think it was incomplete, taking into account that when he attempted it our soul rebelled. I was always hoping they'd expand on this in some way, shape or form, but in the end nothing.

    Now this also highlights another issue I take with the whole thing. Regardless of their intent with it. It ended up being completely inconsequential. That whole sequence of events could have been left out entirely and would likely have only made the story better, to be honest.
    I'm gonna copy paste my response from the other thread over here as well, since some of this was touched on during the cutscene itself: But it happens in the first couple of lines when you wake up in the other body, so I think a lot of folks missed it.

    'When you're pulled into the body in the first place, Fandaniel says "The experiment was a success, but I fear our time is short."

    He follows this a bit later with "I took the liberty of making some improvements - and selecting you as my esteemed test subject" while taking about Aulus' research.||

    IE: He makes it very clear that you're a test of the process, and it didn't exactly last long. Plus, you know, crazy boy did it for his own behind the scenes reasons as revealed through the rest of the story, and he's kinda gone now. So it's a one off that didn't exactly work out all that great.'
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