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    Rhaya Jakkya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    But can they really keep up? We're the ones who's dealing with the hardest fights while Scions are out or busy with doing something else. Of course I'm not saying they don't deserve the praise for being always there for us and supporting us, but we and them are not on the same level.

    We've come a long way from level 1 to 83. We gained power. Also, in that mission we are operating a Garlean soldier. It's not an inexperienced person, well at least in my book.
    It's not just about levels of powers. It's the whole quest.

    It comes out of nowhere and is just forced on you.
    The whole thing what I've seen of it is just bad. The writing is bad. The gameplay is bad. The execution of the quest is bad.

    I just want the maintenance to finish so I can go finish the quest and proceed to forget about this little filler arc until I have to do it again on another character, I would actually pay money for a 6.0 story skip to not have to do this quest again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    It's not just about levels of powers. It's the whole quest.

    It comes out of nowhere and is just forced on you.
    The whole thing what I've seen of it is just bad. The writing is bad. The gameplay is bad. The execution of the quest is bad.
    I'm going to disagree with you there. I think it was great. As others said, it makes you feel helpless. It's like with Marvel's "Who are you without your suit?" - "If you're nothing without your suit - you shouldn't have it" but with blessing instead.
    Also you kinda need to be immersed with the story to understand the atmosphere. Ofc it's fine if you don't like it. It's just I feel like you focus on how annoying the duty is, instead of what's happening around you there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    I'm going to disagree with you there. I think it was great. As others said, it makes you feel helpless. "Who are you without your suit?" - "If you're nothing without your suit - you shouldn't have it" but with blessing.
    Also you kinda need to be immersed with the story to understand the atmosphere. Ofc it's fine if you don't like it. It's just I feel like you focus on how annoying the duty is, instead of what's happening around you there.
    Yes, that's what they were going for. The feeling of helplessness, in a form not your own. Unfortunately, even if I was playing my WoL, I'd be striving to avoid every single enemy, just as the mission states, but obviously not for the reason of "helplessness". You have to run back and forth, from one side to the other, and if you didn't know to go the "right" way, first, you may be running around and around, due to it having to be done in a specific order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Yes, that's what they were going for. The feeling of helplessness, in a form not your own. Unfortunately, even if I was playing my WoL, I'd be striving to avoid every single enemy, just as the mission states, but obviously not for the reason of "helplessness". You have to run back and forth, from one side to the other, and if you didn't know to go the "right" way, first, you may be running around and around, due to it having to be done in a specific order.
    I actually got lost there and just started walking around collecting every shiny I could see, so eventually when I found my way out, I already had all needed items
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    I actually got lost there and just started walking around collecting every shiny I could see, so eventually when I found my way out, I already had all needed items
    The healing potions aren't needed, it's the fuel tank or whatever, as I recall, and you can't pick that up until you talk to the pilot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    The healing potions aren't needed, it's the fuel tank or whatever, as I recall, and you can't pick that up until you talk to the pilot.
    It was the key. You could fill the tank with fuel without it. You needed healing potions if you weren't careful and pulled a few mobs. Still, I think I collected everything in that duty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    I'm going to disagree with you there. I think it was great. As others said, it makes you feel helpless. It's like with Marvel's "Who are you without your suit?" - "If you're nothing without your suit - you shouldn't have it" but with blessing instead.
    Also you kinda need to be immersed with the story to understand the atmosphere. Ofc it's fine if you don't like it. It's just I feel like you focus on how annoying the duty is, instead of what's happening around you there.
    It's not even that the blessing of light was taken away, it's not tied to the body. The weakness is your character not being used to the new body, the Garlean's lack of magical ability and the body you get tossed into just being exceptionally weak.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainLagbeard View Post
    It's not even that the blessing of light was taken away, it's not tied to the body. The weakness is your character not being used to the new body, the Garlean's lack of magical ability and the body you get tossed into just being exceptionally weak.
    The point is, we couldn't use it at the moment. It was a test if we could manage without it. Besides, we were in Garlemald, literally few blocks away from Zenos and Fandaniel, we should've expected them to come and say hi to us. And they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    Ofc it's fine if you don't like it. It's just I feel like you focus on how annoying the duty is, instead of what's happening around you there.
    I mean, they're probably not wrong. It -was- indeed annoying from certain point of view. The only thing that really annoys me in this kind of quests is I had to continuously spam 1 button mindlessly as I chip away target's health slowly. This lull usually make my mind drifts elsewhere. I feel like I'd find more enjoyment if they could make threats more dangerous but also die quicker. In this duty, engaging mindlessly can be threatening, but it still feels slow paced. On the other hand, very easy mode only fixes half of that: things are at faster pace but nothing's threatening.

    But personally? Without that kind of annoyance (avoiding mobs, finding what I need to survive and progress through) I wouldn't be immersed into the atmosphere this particular duty designed for: helplessness, fear, violated, dread, and like Floortank mentioned, realizing the true worth of us---the player. It's the best solo duty in the game Imho
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    But personally? Without that kind of annoyance (avoiding mobs, finding what I need to survive and progress through) I wouldn't be immersed into the atmosphere this particular duty designed for: helplessness, fear, violated, dread, and like Floortank mentioned, realizing the true worth of us---the player. It's the best solo duty in the game Imho
    I really enjoyed our return
    (don't read if you haven't finished the mission)
    Our return brought so much fun to me. Even tho it wasn't anything special, after having to go through being helpless and then into literally "hey bastard *heavy breathing*, I've come to take what is mine" and then the quality of the animation of our push while trying to yeet Zenos out of our body" was really enjoyable.
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