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  1. #161
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    Sorimachi87's Avatar
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    Aoi Fukuhara
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Except it's there for the player and a bit of meta commentary. What makes your character special isn't their body, it's you controlling them, and in the case of the WoL that their soul is what makes them special, not their body. You are what make the difference here. If you cannot adapt, how do you expect to survive the challenges ahead? Because as a player we've had to adapt, get better, change up strategies and do things we've never dreamed of having to do in the game before. Every boss, every trial, every single one of them challenges us to do something new. This instance is a reminder that we're gonna have to push ourselves to the limits to succeed and do things we may find ourselves uncomfortable doing for trials and dungeons.
    This sums the scenario up nicely. Thank you!
    I hated Zenos for stealing the characters body and it really made me feel uncomfy. But that is the goal of the scenario in my opinion. If Heavensward, Stormblood or Shadowbringers didnt move you in any way, this took the cake.
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  2. #162
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    Dewslam's Avatar
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    Dewslam Beefgrab
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    I thought it was easier than stalking the little girl.
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  3. #163
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    Minato777's Avatar
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    Lilith Belmont
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Except it's there for the player and a bit of meta commentary. What makes your character special isn't their body, it's you controlling them, and in the case of the WoL that their soul is what makes them special, not their body. You are what make the difference here. If you cannot adapt, how do you expect to survive the challenges ahead? Because as a player we've had to adapt, get better, change up strategies and do things we've never dreamed of having to do in the game before. Every boss, every trial, every single one of them challenges us to do something new. This instance is a reminder that we're gonna have to push ourselves to the limits to succeed and do things we may find ourselves uncomfortable doing for trials and dungeons.
    ok thats nice still found it super boring and a waste of my time( also keywords MY time not a fictional character who hasn't had personality for like 90% of the story). at the end of the day this is a game if the whole point is to waste the character time then do it with a cutscene, not in a crappy poorly made stealth mission that makes every annoying feature of mmos gameplay come to play.....

    also i really need to stress this I do NOT give a fuck about the WOL......who i have not felt is my character (story wise) since like late heavansward.
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  4. #164
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Personally I didnt find this solo instance hard at all, just spammed the hell out of stealth and instant ko'd the people and dogs in the way(doesnt work on mechanical things.) The npc vision isnt as good as youd think and they do not care if theres a knocked out person in front of them.
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  5. #165
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    Serenitey's Avatar
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    Uldah
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    Luna Star
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    Gilgamesh
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Stank but it is ok if you do not try to combat everything and try to stealth most. The droids can never be sin attack so always stealth those. Keep trying you can get it.
    (3)

    Wise men speak because the have something to say, fools because they have to say something. - Plato - He saw the ff forums apparently.

  6. #166
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    LystAP's Avatar
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    Aigiarn Kha
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Ninja Lv 100
    I generally thought the whole lack of direction was intentional - that our knack for finding things and quest objects were a consequence of our OP body and Echo, whom we developed to the fullest over these past expansions and suddenly we're in the body of a 'normal soldier', who lacks all these things. It impresses on us how different we are.

    Gameplay-wise though I can see how it can be frustrating for some people. They spoil us with all these quest icons and buffs. However, I feel nerfing this quest would foil the impact.
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  7. #167
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    Sorimachi87's Avatar
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    Aoi Fukuhara
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    Odin
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LystAP View Post
    However, I feel nerfing this quest would foil the impact.
    Absolutely agree. It is doable without switching the difficulty. Like i said earlier the scenario WANTS YOU to feel uncomfy about it. Timer is there to add a sense of urgency because if you wouldn't make it in time, zenos in your body would probably wreck the camp and your friends along the way to.

    I know a lot of things have been said already about it. Just wanted to mention it again.

    Edit: It would have been a LOT worse without yshtola around. Lets be honest.
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  8. #168
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    Mika_Zahard's Avatar
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    Mika Zahard
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I loved this scenario, and did it in my first try. Only had 6 minutes to spare at the end
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  9. #169
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    Bright-Flower's Avatar
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    Nyr Ardyne
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    Balmung
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I liked the scenario but I felt the resolution was too clean. We're reduced to crawling in the snow but somehow get back in time to stop anything bad from happening kind of deflated the whole thing for me. Zenos is super powerful yet never allowed to actually do anything that will hit us where it hurts.
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  10. #170
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    Warpstone's Avatar
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    Warpstone Slider
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 90
    The more I read about this the more I dread getting to this quest. It just sounds awful, I find quests that I have to play as another character very unpleasant. I usually die as fast as possible and set it on very easy, skip every cutscene to get it done fast as possible.
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