Should the launch have been delayed? What else could be done?

[ZetsubouX]

Why don't you people simply understand that it is impossible to get new adequate servers right now?

Do you not get that it's IMPOSSIBLE?

The servers in question are not 3 graphic cards hooked together in someone's garage, guys.

These are absolutely massive dedicated servers that require thousands upon thousands of semiconductor chips that are currently in world wide shortage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E..._chip_shortage

Like, just quickly searching google gives you an actual wikipedia page on the problem at hand.

Instead of constantly bashing on Square Enix and annoying your fellow players by making literally hundreds of threads on the same issue, how about you spend your time reading A SINGLE article or wikipedia page on the subject so you can at least somewhat educate yourself before you go off on a rant like a child.

This is coming from someone with 0 experience in IT, 0 knowledge of the shortage before YoshiP made a post about it (or wherever I saw the announcement that there would be issues and that this was the main reason).

As soon as I read that post, I did a 5 min research on the issue and now I understand it.
Imagine that.

[EverQuest]

Literally tons of stuff couldn't have been done. They could have gone with aws for example don't come in here with this nothing could have been done. Options existed they just didn't utilize any of the outside the box solutions.

[ZetsubouX]

Literally tons of stuff couldn't have been done. They could have gone with aws for example don't come in here with this nothing could have been done. Options existed they just didn't utilize any of the outside the box solutions.

"They could've done tons of stuff!" (I assume this is what you were trying to type.)
"Options existed!"
"Outside of the box solutions!"

You sound like Trump.
Lets hear it, then. What are your grand solutions?
Tons of stuff. "AWS". "Options existed", like what, exactly?

[EverQuest]

Gtfo of here with your political charged statements.

Don't come in here and pretend aws wasn't a solution you obviously already know what aws is. The hard part would have been coordination and turning them in ff14 and integration, but it is definitely possible. It be a lot of work, and maybe something they didn't want to do but they could switch the entire infrastructure to AWS if they wanted.

EW had a huge benefit that many games don't pre order numbers are likely very accurate for ff14 since unlike a new title peole aren't holding back to wait. Many people that play pre ordered since basically no reason existed not to they could accurately start to see what the player base was going to be as the weeks closed in.

Based on how AWS functions they could have solved this problem. Getting a machine would have been no issue it would undoubtedly take time and coordination to turn it into a ff14 server and tie in multiple machines, but it is possible. Obviously it's not a two week delay task. In fact they'd even be able to switch over entirely if they wanted and move the entire infrastructure to and essentially scale indefinitely if they wanted they just don't want this particular solution. I'm not here to argue with you though but the reason I said solutions is AWS has competition now so they had other options besides AWS I just merely picked the one used by GW2 and New World as an example.

You might argue New World had issues but that was poor planning not an aws issue.

You're welcome to provide counter evidence if you believe that it would have been impossible to utilize AWS or a similar platform to solve the issue we face here. I'm happy to admit I'm wrong if you can show that it would have been impossible.

[ZetsubouX]

Gtfo of here with your political charged statements.

Don't come in here and pretend aws wasn't a solution you obviously already know what aws is. The hard part would have been coordination and turning them in ff14 and integration, but it is definitely possible. It be a lot of work, and maybe something they didn't want to do but they could switch the entire infrastructure to AWS if they wanted.

EW had a huge benefit that many games don't pre order numbers are likely very accurate for ff14 since unlike a new title peole aren't holding back to wait. Many people that play pre ordered since basically no reason existed not to they could accurately start to see what the player base was going to be as the weeks closed in.

Based on how AWS functions they could have solved this problem. Getting a machine would have been no issue it would undoubtedly take time and coordination to turn it into a ff14 server and tie in multiple machines, but it is possible. Obviously it's not a two week delay task. In fact they'd even be able to switch over entirely if they wanted and move the entire infrastructure to and essentially scale indefinitely if they wanted they just don't want this particular solution. I'm not here to argue with you though but the reason I said solutions is AWS has competition now so they had other options besides AWS I just merely picked the one used by GW2 and New World as an example.

You might argue New World had issues but that was poor planning not an aws issue.

You're welcome to provide counter evidence if you believe that it would have been impossible to utilize AWS or a similar platform to solve the issue we face here. I'm happy to admit I'm wrong if you can show that it would have been impossible.

I won't get out of here and I won't stop "coming in here". And I will make whatever statements I choose to make and you are going to deal with it. Or leave yourself. Those are your options.
AWS wasn't a solution for SE because they want dedicated, reliable servers.

It's not because "it's possible" that it is therefore "viable" and "up to company standards".

Renting servers from a company that has a horrible reputation in the industry is hardly a solution beyond what would satisfy your childish needs of "I want it and I want it NOW ;_;".
Furthermore, there are way more players actually playing the game than there are players not playing the game. I am playing it right now and have played every single day since 6.0 was released.
And before you suggest that my server is low populated and doesn't have any congestion, I have been number 8500+ in queue several times now.
I too have gotten the 2002 error, but prefer that, over unstable servers that crash like WoW's servers used to do. Because then nobody gets to play.

You agreed to the terms of service, I suggest you read it.

[EverQuest]

They utilize AWS I'm not sure why you think they dislike AWS.

Political callout are not needed here.

[ZetsubouX]

They utilize AWS I'm not sure why you think they dislike AWS.

Political callout are not needed here.

I will decide what is needed in my response to your posts and what is not.
If you sound like Trump and I feel like remarking that you do, then I will do just that.

[Zileth]

There still be light que times........ delaying wouldnt change the fact they are having issues getting servers due to the chip shortage

[Komarimono]

Gtfo of here with your political charged statements.

Don't come in here and pretend aws wasn't a solution you obviously already know what aws is. The hard part would have been coordination and turning them in ff14 and integration, but it is definitely possible. It be a lot of work, and maybe something they didn't want to do but they could switch the entire infrastructure to AWS if they wanted.

EW had a huge benefit that many games don't pre order numbers are likely very accurate for ff14 since unlike a new title peole aren't holding back to wait. Many people that play pre ordered since basically no reason existed not to they could accurately start to see what the player base was going to be as the weeks closed in.

Based on how AWS functions they could have solved this problem. Getting a machine would have been no issue it would undoubtedly take time and coordination to turn it into a ff14 server and tie in multiple machines, but it is possible. Obviously it's not a two week delay task. In fact they'd even be able to switch over entirely if they wanted and move the entire infrastructure to and essentially scale indefinitely if they wanted they just don't want this particular solution. I'm not here to argue with you though but the reason I said solutions is AWS has competition now so they had other options besides AWS I just merely picked the one used by GW2 and New World as an example.

You might argue New World had issues but that was poor planning not an aws issue.

You're welcome to provide counter evidence if you believe that it would have been impossible to utilize AWS or a similar platform to solve the issue we face here. I'm happy to admit I'm wrong if you can show that it would have been impossible.

Oh boy... You honestly think AWS is that good? Yikes...

First off, their hardware is mostly ancient, the majority of their servers on Wolfsdale era Xeons. The whole reason they pushed AWS and continue to do so, is to spread the loud out on multiple servers since they are so weak. This is one reason people have many many issues with it, and Amazons soluition every time? Just restart your instance.

I mean if anything, we should be avoid AWS, the power to draw it has is absurd, probably some of the most eco non friendly servers in the world, since so many of them.

[shiroxkatsuya]

Well i feel for those who have struggled to play (i have had my own issues) limiting play time is NEVER the answer.