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    Player FawkesWyznfarr's Avatar
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    To anyone disappointed with their jobs/classes

    You only have yourself to blame.
    Yoshida has gone on record saying not to expect gameplay like Heavensward. Expecting anything more than the bare minimum from the job design team is completely on you. And you'd be right to have those high expections.

    I'm posting this here because everyone and their dog browses general discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FawkesWyznfarr View Post
    You only have yourself to blame.
    Yoshida has gone on record saying not to expect gameplay like Heavensward. Expecting anything more than the bare minimum from the job design team is completely on you. And you'd be right to have those high expections.

    I'm posting this here because everyone and their dog browses general discussion.
    Because Heavensward was the peak of class design? Is this a troll post?
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    Dark Knight, Warrior, Scholar, Astrologian, Ninja. These jobs were fun in HW. Dark Knight especially. Some jobs have gotten better over the years, I will not dispute that. Others have been gutted like a cornish game hen in favor of appealing to the masses. That makes me sad.
    When I die, I want Yoshida to put my casket in the ground, so he can let me down one last time.
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    "To anyone disappointed with their jobs/classes"

    "You only have yourself to blame."

    Quote Originally Posted by FawkesWyznfarr View Post
    When I die, I want Yoshida to put my casket in the ground, so he can let me down one last time.
    You feel let down ?

    Your disappointed?

    So you made this post to project ?
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    Player FawkesWyznfarr's Avatar
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    Why don't you take a stroll down to the gameplay forum and see for yourself. A good amount of threads dedicated to Dark Knight and how much it sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FawkesWyznfarr View Post
    Why don't you take a stroll down to the gameplay forum and see for yourself. A good amount of threads dedicated to Dark Knight and how much it sucks.
    When was Dark Knight good?
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    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by FawkesWyznfarr View Post
    Dark Knight, Warrior, Scholar, Astrologian, Ninja. These jobs were fun in HW. Dark Knight especially. Some jobs have gotten better over the years, I will not dispute that. Others have been gutted like a cornish game hen in favor of appealing to the masses. That makes me sad.
    When I die, I want Yoshida to put my casket in the ground, so he can let me down one last time.
    Heavensward class design was a slight improvement of ARR which was very barebones. Dark Knight was changed because Dark Arts was not a good mechanic. Ninja was changed because the servers did not play well with them. Warrior was nerfed because it was broken in heavensward. I can't speak much for the healers cause I haven't played them enough. Most changes that were done in this expansion removed inconvenient mechanics that the classes had and also address mechanics that did not function well with the server latency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    Heavensward class design was a slight improvement of ARR which was very barebones. Dark Knight was changed because Dark Arts was not a good mechanic. Ninja was changed because the servers did not play well with them. Warrior was nerfed because it was broken in heavensward. I can't speak much for the healers cause I haven't played them enough. Most changes that were done in this expansion removed inconvenient mechanics that the classes had and also address mechanics that did not function well with the server latency.
    I'm sorry, but did you just say HW DRK was changed because of Dark arts? Do you have any idea how DRK actually changed from HW to SB?
    The reason DRK was changed was because it was well made and extremely versatile. Warrior was OP and adequately made, and PLD was pure trash. They knew they couldn't make WAR and PLD into DRK levels of good, so they ruined it and kept that mentality for 3 expacs now.

    To say Dark arts was the reason is just lunacy though, all you did in SB was SPAM Dark arts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FawkesWyznfarr View Post
    Dark Knight, Warrior, Scholar, Astrologian, Ninja. These jobs were fun in HW. Dark Knight especially. Some jobs have gotten better over the years, I will not dispute that. Others have been gutted like a cornish game hen in favor of appealing to the masses. That makes me sad.
    When I die, I want Yoshida to put my casket in the ground, so he can let me down one last time.

    OK, I laughed. I think you missed the boat though. We don't have unique jobs, we have roles. Every job in a role has to fit in the same hole. It means less exclusion of jobs, and boring homogenized designs. I don't know if it was a man power issue or something else entirely.
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    This is true. I think where the community screwed up is demanding higher quantity job options and not paying any effort towards prioritizing the quality of the job options. Theme park MMOs are always destined to go down this path.
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