This launch is a mess.

[RemedyLock]

Having to wait out a queue is fine, having it kick you and reset you back to the start over and over isn't okay

[Yzphet]

Queus are fine, whatever, it happens.

It's sitting in a 10k+ queue for more than 3 hours, to finally get in the game and THEN, get errored out of the game in 5 minutes by a DX bug that's been going on for years, apparently, and getting dropped back at the end of another 6k+ queue to start all over... WTF

[Lillith1047]

I love this thread. I should get some popcorn and just laugh at all the salt and hate from the "new players." You all acting like you're big-wig investors. *laughs in enjoying EW*

[alsiniz]

I just want to add:

Europe has literally 1/2 as many worlds as NA and 1/3 as many worlds as JP. The majority of people being vocal about their disappointment and dissatisfaction are players on the Light/Chaos data centers in EU. I wish those of you defending the state of the game would have more compassion for your fellow WoL instead of gaslighting our experiences and being dismissive just because you've been able to get a lot of playtime in. People being able to log-in reliably has not been a universal experience for WoL around the world. Half my FC has literally been unable to login for any reasonable duration when they have a few hours to spare after work.

If you think critiquing the state of a game we love and want to see get better is toxic then that's your problem. Critiques and player feedback are an essential part of improving games. If seeing critiques on the forums are going to make you lash out at those who dare to voice their dissatisfaction then maybe stop browsing the forums and go pickup a book about how to have a genuine conversation/debate without name-calling and gaslighting the person you're engaging with.

[Freki42]

I just want to add:

Europe has literally 1/2 as many worlds as NA and 1/3 as many worlds as JP. The majority of people being vocal about their disappointment and dissatisfaction are players on the Light/Chaos data centers in EU. I wish those of you defending the state of the game would have more compassion for your fellow WoL instead of gaslighting our experiences and being dismissive just because you've been able to get a lot of playtime in. People being able to log-in reliably has not been a universal experience for WoL around the world. Half my FC has literally been unable to login for any reasonable duration when they have a few hours to spare after work.

If you think critiquing the state of a game we love and want to see get better is toxic then that's your problem. Critiques and player feedback are an essential part of improving games. If seeing critiques on the forums are going to make you lash out at those who dare to voice their dissatisfaction then maybe stop browsing the forums and go pickup a book about how to have a genuine conversation/debate without name-calling and gaslighting the person you're engaging with.

All I have done is fight the sensationalism that accompanies these releases. I support anyone deciding to stop paying or that just posts an observation, but if they start saying that the company is responsible for things like this when most of what could be done has been done there is nothing to be gained there. I also will put down people demanding refunds as there are EULA's and ToS that cover that, but if they politely ask for a refund from SQenix properly I'll support them. I have been both able to log in and play and been affected by the aforementioned issues and I have not been crying hell and damnation because of the issues.

[alsiniz]

All I have done is fight the sensationalism that accompanies these releases. I support anyone deciding to stop paying or that just posts an observation, but if they start saying that the company is responsible for things like this when most of what could be done has been done there is nothing to be gained there. I also will put down people demanding refunds as there are EULA's and ToS that cover that, but if they politely ask for a refund from SQenix properly I'll support them. I have been both able to log in and play and been affected by the aforementioned issues and I have not been crying hell and damnation because of the issues.

That's fair.

With that being said, Square Enix is, in my opinion, still responsible. I'm aware of the measures they took and my critique was and still is that those measures aren't enough. At the end of the day chips are still being made and sold, albeit only to the highest bidder and for far above their usual market price. The reality is that Square Enix has decided not to invest in the infrastructure for a smooth expansion release because the current day cost of said infrastructure was deemed by them to be not worth it.

I don't think it's right that friends can't spontaneously hop on to play an MMO together because of massive and unstable queue times, even if it is in the context of a major expansion launch. I don't think it's right that some of my FC friends have yet to even experience anything related to FFXIV post-Endwalker launch because their daily several hour long waits weren't enough to get them past the queue. You're not wrong that the ToS covers SQuenix in the event that they are unable to provide game-time, but realistically that is drafted to legally cover them in case of emergencies. I don't think using the ToS to defend SQuenix from critiques regarding their anemic preparations for this launch does anyone any favors.

[Arazehl]

I just want to add:

Europe has literally 1/2 as many worlds as NA and 1/3 as many worlds as JP. The majority of people being vocal about their disappointment and dissatisfaction are players on the Light/Chaos data centers in EU. I wish those of you defending the state of the game would have more compassion for your fellow WoL instead of gaslighting our experiences and being dismissive just because you've been able to get a lot of playtime in. People being able to log-in reliably has not been a universal experience for WoL around the world. Half my FC has literally been unable to login for any reasonable duration when they have a few hours to spare after work.

If you think critiquing the state of a game we love and want to see get better is toxic then that's your problem. Critiques and player feedback are an essential part of improving games. If seeing critiques on the forums are going to make you lash out at those who dare to voice their dissatisfaction then maybe stop browsing the forums and go pickup a book about how to have a genuine conversation/debate without name-calling and gaslighting the person you're engaging with.

Oh it's been a pain all the way around when it comes to log in. There's no denying that. Some critiques and feedback has been constructive, but some has been down right whiney. You know that kind of whine where you demand stuff and come off like a privilege spoiled brat, to have what you want, when you want it whine. Much is just a just a repeat of what is already known and been expressed over and over. A few has been based from the lack of knowledge in all aspects of the issue mixed in with the trolls, well that becomes a new kind of pain on of it's own merits alone. Yet I must say it gives me something to do while waiting in the queue. I weed through all the above mention to look for the sensible critiques and feedback.

[DZ04]

no queue just keep getting 3001...

[Rocketcatcha]

yup keep getting 3001 error here too and the queue i'm trying to get into is like 190 same thing happened same time last night 7 to 11.30 was just 3001 until it finally let me in. wouldnt care if it was putting me in a queue but not even putting me in one is kinda very frustrating

[elvenmad]

Ongoing Congestion Situation and Compensation https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...a8505e75541ab1


"Considering that we are asking players to wait in queues for extremely long periods of time and the ongoing situation making it difficult to play normally, we have decided that during the official release of Endwalker on December 7, we will be granting 7 days of free game time to all players who own the full version of the game and have an active subscription.

So, looks like they can't fix the issues so instead are granting compensation, which is just about all they can do at this point, TBH I still believe Square E is entirely at fault here selling far more early access's to the game than they can possibly handle I can only presume it is still yet only going to get worse once the "official" launch starts in a few days.

I feel extremely sorry for Yoshi and his team I'm sure they are receiving the most flack for the situation, but they only develop and make the game, they DONT sell l it, the monetary side is entirely Squares