Quote Originally Posted by Sani2341 View Post
But that only applies to the up to three Toxikons you can get from downtime shielding.
The moment you put a E. Diagnosis on the Tank during the pull jsut for toxikon, it starts to loose out quickly to dyskrasia, as you loose a full GCD of damage to get that addersting stack.
My math accounted for that. See the last bit of calculation where I was essentially putting numbers to what I hoped was otherwise quite obvious. One GCD for a heal to later be followed by a slightly stronger AoE was going to lose out to just casting the slightly weaker AoE twice.

Quote Originally Posted by Maxilor View Post
So we essentially take all Dyskrasia's in those calculations and double them to account for the extra GCD of damage.
No need to do that. The first set of calculations were to help justify that in a given moment, if you had to choose between Dyskrasia vs. Toxicon for a single cast and you could cast both, Toxicon wins unless you have an absurd amount of targets and don't care about MP cost. In other words, if you didn't have a charge for Toxicon, then just use Dyskrasia.

The last bit of computations I did was essentially stating Sani2341's point: Don't be fooled into thinking you should be setting up to cast Toxicon just for the sake of casting Toxicon. Those GCDs you use to cast the heals are GCDs you aren't doing damage which is why in that example I'm comparing a single Toxicon II's damage to 2 casts of Dyskrasia II.

The bottom line is that Toxicon barely has reason to exist. It's pretty situational and I find that I only really use it in big pulls where the tank is taking enough damage to justify Eukrasian Diagnosis for healing purposes, and only at times when the tank actually needed it. If you just start spamming Eukrasian Diagnosis even in a big pull, you're likely to overheal and then even refresh the shield before it has a chance to break which will cause you to be even more wasteful.