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    Quote Originally Posted by White_Wolf_X View Post
    They called "Main Story Quest" for a reason.
    The S actually means Scenario!

    *pushes glasses*
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    voice acting is expensive and with the extensive amount of dialogue in this game it wouldn't be practical to voice all of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    really why only some got it, its getting annoying when there lots of text dump and may be 2 sentences are even relevant to the plot. why not at last voice all the msq? this is by far the most financially successful mmo, it clearly can do it. even games like gw2 can and they make maybe 25% of what ff14 is .
    what you think of this?
    Because it is expensive to dub everything? You have to pay the Seiyu, who are stars in Japan or well-known voices in English and other languages.

    The budget put in too much, it's less budget for other more useful things.

    It's nice to have fully dubbed games, but if the time is limited and the budget is put into more gameplay, story telling and quality of life, I say it's okey.

    I think it's a shame that outside of MSQ, it doesn't speak, the NPC Shop and others don't say a word, so between the patches that add MSQ and well, it's pretty easy to forget that my game is in Japanese for the voices.
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    why people act as if this a small game the cant reach even 50k players?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    why people act as if this a small game the cant reach even 50k players?
    why are you acting like money grows on trees and they are not given a budget they have to follow.

    its not just voice acting in English.

    the game is available in Many languages, soi, you pay actors, you pay the translators to put it intio whatever language, then you need QA that understands the language, so make it fit in the given space and not make it seem like the voice acting is going on and on... you seem to be glossing over a ton of costly variables because its magical money raining from the sky.

    Sure, SE has money, no doubt, yes, FFxiv does well for them, but in what world would the part that does FFxiv get all the money it makes. zero business unit works that way. they get a budget.. they have to work within that budget, plain and simple.
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    I will actually agree with you Samsara.

    The MSQ is my favorite part of FFXIV, I just love the story. The voice acting makes it so much better and immersive. If they did voice acting on MSQ alone, I'd be happy. I have a lot of friends who have told me they "can't get into the story" because they end up just mass clicking through the walls of text instead of reading them, and only watch the voice acted cutscenes.

    GW2 does an excellent job with their voice acting, and has to have even more actors, since the player even talks in their cutscenes. That's 10 different instances of reading the same lines (5 races male/female). And I'll argue that FFXIV is much more story driven than GW2. It only makes sense to invest in the voice acting for it, at least for the important quests. Every time a cutscene pops up that isn't voiced, I'll read it, but I still feel a twinge of disappointment.

    Many of those voice actors can do multiple voices, so could just reuse them to voice minor characters in the MSQ as well. Wouldn't be that hard to do.
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    Consider the fact that we get to name our character, and that almost all non-voiced scenes refer to you by your character's name. If they voiced ALL dialogue, they would never be able to refer to you by name but would have to say she/her/WoL/"hey you" which would get extremely tedious to write around. Not only that, but it would also dampen a lot of the relationships we build with the npcs, like if one of the twins say "thank you for saving me there, John" it acknowledges you as a person, whereas if they said "thank you for saving me there, Warrior of Light" it comes across as much more formal and distant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iplewhelmed View Post
    Consider the fact that we get to name our character, and that almost all non-voiced scenes refer to you by your character's name. If they voiced ALL dialogue, they would never be able to refer to you by name but would have to say she/her/WoL/"hey you" which would get extremely tedious to write around. Not only that, but it would also dampen a lot of the relationships we build with the npcs, like if one of the twins say "thank you for saving me there, John" it acknowledges you as a person, whereas if they said "thank you for saving me there, Warrior of Light" it comes across as much more formal and distant.
    how its a problem. all the games do it. clearly they will not create a naming algorithm .

    Quote Originally Posted by kaynide View Post
    You can't really compare to Guildwars 2 as they utilize their budget in extremely different ways;

    GW2, for example, is extremely limited in the music department and basically recycles their soundtrack from GW1. That's a huge amount of money saved. Don't get me wrong, it's a fine soundtrack if you're into canned Jeremy Soule (which again, is good, albeit very "background music for studying" vibe imho). They don't utilize a lot of mocap like SE does, they basically have nutcracker-jaw'd characters when they speak.

    GW2 does a LOT of things right and deserve LOTS of praise for it, but they are very much apples and oranges to FFXIV.
    you can on the fact that GW2 don't make any wear near as much cash as ff14. people bring the cash problem and its just to show. one more game that dont do as much as ff14 is ESO but can do voice overs. not i don't need any small thing to be voiced but msq.
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    You can't really compare to Guildwars 2 as they utilize their budget in extremely different ways;

    GW2, for example, is extremely limited in the music department and basically recycles their soundtrack from GW1. That's a huge amount of money saved. Don't get me wrong, it's a fine soundtrack if you're into canned Jeremy Soule (which again, is good, albeit very "background music for studying" vibe imho). They don't utilize a lot of mocap like SE does, they basically have nutcracker-jaw'd characters when they speak.

    GW2 does a LOT of things right and deserve LOTS of praise for it, but they are very much apples and oranges to FFXIV.
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    Last edited by kaynide; 12-04-2021 at 11:56 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    really why only some got it, its getting annoying when there lots of text dump and may be 2 sentences are even relevant to the plot. why not at last voice all the msq? this is by far the most financially successful mmo, it clearly can do it. even games like gw2 can and they make maybe 25% of what ff14 is .
    what you think of this?
    Because it is expensive?
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