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  1. #61
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    Samniel Atkascha
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    Yeah, while Matsuno was consulted on the Viera, the playable race we got is still a creation of CBU3, so they have the actual final say in the Naming Conventions FOR XIV.

    Example: Fran is a City name in FFXIV, while Fran was her birth name in FFXII, which would meant it was her Forest name.

    I DO hope we get the actual naming conventions soon enough. Though thankfully won't affect my main.
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  2. #62
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    Reverie Arbeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaohaLanbatal View Post
    I tweeted at Matsuno, and he said (in Japanese) "I can't answer that question, please contact Square Enix".
    Thank you for continuing to reach out to those that most of us can't, even if we've gotten no luck out of it.

    Unfortunately (again), our fifth weekend coming up probably means another guaranteed two days of nothing. I know this has been the most difficult launch they've experienced -- I mean, hell, the game still isn't even back up on sale -- but it's hard to not be paranoid about them forgoing the conventions, since the idea of them, on paper at least, seems so simple to give out...
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  3. #63
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    We never got naming conventions for races of the First either. They're not so important as the Source, but we do have information posted about the beast tribes who are entirely unplayable.

    I just want to know what the logic is with Mystel names. There's a clear pattern between male and female names that looks like it should be given and family name, but then they take nicknames somewhat randomly from either half of the name.
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  4. #64
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    Rjvn Rakhar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    We never got naming conventions for races of the First either. They're not so important as the Source, but we do have information posted about the beast tribes who are entirely unplayable.

    I just want to know what the logic is with Mystel names. There's a clear pattern between male and female names that looks like it should be given and family name, but then they take nicknames somewhat randomly from either half of the name.
    From what I've gathered, all Mystel follow [Given name]-[Surname], but female Mystel likely take their surnames from either a father or a husband, since there's a lot of overlap between male forenames and female surnames. Maybe they're saving it for Encyclopedia Eorzea III?
    I've actually done some independent research on this exact subject for the other races of the First as well, though at risk of derailing I'll save them for another thread. I'm still hopeful that the First will eventually become more relevant to life on the Source, so more information on this would be greatly appreciated as well.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vallavia View Post
    Maybe they're saving it for Encyclopedia Eorzea III?
    I'm dreading that this may also be the case for the rabbit men.
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  6. #66
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vallavia View Post
    From what I've gathered, all Mystel follow [Given name]-[Surname], but female Mystel likely take their surnames from either a father or a husband, since there's a lot of overlap between male forenames and female surnames.
    Having gone through all the names and made lists, there's overlap in both directions. There are two distinct lists of name components: "List A" being a fixed surname-like form and "List B" having gendered variants (eg. Shirr/Shira). Male names always have an A-B structure and female names B-A.

    Logically that suggests a clear given name and family name structure, but there isn't a constant pattern to which half of the name gets used as the short form.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 01-09-2022 at 02:35 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Having gone through all the names and made lists, there's overlap in both directions. There are two distinct lists of name components: "List A" being a fixed surname-like form and "List B" having gendered variants (eg. Shirr/Shira). Male names always have an A-B structure and female names B-A.
    Very interesting; I hadn't picked up on the gendered variants though I admittedly had a much smaller sample size.

    Quote Originally Posted by alacruxe View Post
    I'm dreading that this may also be the case for the rabbit men.
    Well, thanks for planting that fear!
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  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vallavia View Post
    Well, thanks for planting that fear!
    tfw your name lore is paid dlc
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  9. #69
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    Just bumping this for visibility. Come on, Square...
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    Reverie Arbeau
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    Day 35! G-give it up for... day 35... ;_; Or 39 if we're going by early access

    I noticed on the dev tracker that most community team members have been busy responding to bug reports/text errors/etc. So I hope it is just that they are that busy and not ignoring this...
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