Male Viera Naming Conventions

[alacruxe]

Much to think about indeed.

Kinda piggybacking off of some of the other ideas in this thread, maybe Djt- and Rehw- mean mentor or apprentice, and the suffixes are either professions/specialties (archer, mage, apothecary, etc) or descriptions of territory? I'm given to understand that Veena and Rava share a similar culture, though, so it would be odd for the Veena not to denote whether one is a mentor or apprentice the way the Rava do. So maybe the prefixes mean "stayed in this forest" or "left this forest," or maybe they designate northern versus southern territory, or...something.

The Veena -wesfv suffix? Totally clueless on that one. My first instinct was to wonder if maybe it meant "apprentice of," with the first part of it being the name of one's mentor, but none of the prefixes are present in the forename pool, meaning that isn't a feasible possibility. My other guess was maybe it refers to settlements. Each surname being the name of a common camp, with -wesfv either meaning "resident of" or just "camp" or...something. Or maybe they're professions, too.

Either way I think it's very interesting that the differing naming conventions seem to imply a different culture. But I could be way off base with that assumption.

[Vallavia]

Much to think about indeed.

Kinda piggybacking off of some of the other ideas in this thread, maybe Djt- and Rehw- mean mentor or apprentice, and the suffixes are either professions/specialties (archer, mage, apothecary, etc) or descriptions of territory? I'm given to understand that Veena and Rava share a similar culture, though, so it would be odd for the Veena not to denote whether one is a mentor or apprentice the way the Rava do. So maybe the prefixes mean "stayed in this forest" or "left this forest," or maybe they designate northern versus southern territory, or...something.

The Veena -wesfv suffix? Totally clueless on that one. My first instinct was to wonder if maybe it meant "apprentice of," with the first part of it being the name of one's mentor, but none of the prefixes are present in the forename pool, meaning that isn't a feasible possibility. My other guess was maybe it refers to settlements. Each surname being the name of a common camp, with -wesfv either meaning "resident of" or just "camp" or...something. Or maybe they're professions, too.

Either way I think it's very interesting that the differing naming conventions seem to imply a different culture. But I could be way off base with that assumption.

I think you may be on to something regarding the prefixes, since the only distinct cultural difference we know of between Rava and Veena is that Veena are generally more accepting of their people leaving the Wood. I've also discovered in my "research" that each clan has exactly ten possible surnames (five for Rava, with two prefixes), which lends to the 'societal role' or 'territory' theories... At this rate my brain's going to turn to juice from all the speculating.

[Onz]

I think you may be on to something regarding the prefixes, since the only distinct cultural difference we know of between Rava and Veena is that Veena are generally more accepting of their people leaving the Wood. I've also discovered in my "research" that each clan has exactly ten possible surnames (five for Rava, with two prefixes), which lends to the 'societal role' or 'territory' theories... At this rate my brain's going to turn to juice from all the speculating.

If it helps, I went through and randomised the names a couple hundred times and found that there are twelve different surnames for Rava and Veena both.

Rava:
Djt-bidit
Djt-dvre
Djt-gilda
Djt-marouc
Djt-nong
Djt-setlas
Rehw-bidit
Rehw-dvre
Rehw-gilda
Rehw-marouc
Rehw-nong
Rehw-setlas

Veena:
Copihwesfv
Foixewesfv
Gahjewesfv
Huorlwesfv
Jgnewesfv
Monnawesfv
Ornedwesfv
Phiitewesfv
Qufiswesfv
Rawbewesfv
Sjadarwesfv
Ubmuawesfv

[shadowclasper]

right? Absolutely.

[ProstheticSoul]

While this elaboration was desperately needed, and while I appreciate the effort on the lore master's part (whomever that may be), I am a bit disappointed that there isn't further explanation as it pertains to City Viera--both male and female. There are only two examples given with forenames--"Cherry" and "Morning Glory." And the latter is kind of obtuse with the way Square-Enix is utilizing it here. How is that "a thing that a Viera is fond of?" Doesn't sound like an object, a concept, an ideal, etc.

Additionally, I fear this elaboration does not go far enough is explaining the City Vieras' surnames. Yes, they discard or replace their village surname upon venturing out. But do they also follow the same emulation when it comes to choosing their forenames? Square-Enix does not say for some inexplicable reason.

Lastly, considering the fact that many Viera outright DISCARD their surname upon abandoning their village I find it disheartening that there is no option to simply forego a surname altogether in the character creation menu or in the name change menu when purchasing that option in the Mog Station website. There is a bit of a disconnect here between the Viera lore and what is allowed of the player in terms of game mechanics. It is a tad frustrating to say the least.

[shadowclasper]

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...ng-Conventions

We finally got a name update!

[RoroCookies]

Yes I would love any news regarding male viera names. I’m ready to change my name but I would like to the know the lore before doing so in case there was some cool additional info we might miss.

[Exosapien]

Hope they release the information before we can name change. My bunby is starting to meow at people.

[PaperMatt]

Does anyone got a list of the first names that are chosen when you press random during character creator for Veena's? I know back in Shadowbringers there was a google doc of all the possible Male Hrothgar random names and all the Female Viera random names.