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    Be patient and appreciative

    Pretty smooth launch day I would say.
    Obviously, the queue would be long until maybe early January. If you struggle to get in the game, understandable, just remember that the game is not made just for you alone.

    If you want to play without extended wait time, then pray adapt and adjust, log in at night or very early morning like what I've done earlier and am doing right now. So far so smooth, less then 10seconds wait!

    Sure it sucks to be stuck behind log in screen while you may have requested dayoffs from work. But you should have expected this, it's launch month. I consider myself lucky to be able to get in during the day. Max I've waited in line was 46 mins. Official launch day would be more congested I assume, so get yourself mentally ready for what is to come.
    Besides we have two years to wander, why rush it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LitheSuxman View Post
    Pretty smooth launch day I would say.
    Obviously, the queue would be long until maybe early January. If you struggle to get in the game, understandable, just remember that the game is not made just for you alone.

    If you want to play without extended wait time, then pray adapt and adjust, log in at night or very early morning like what I've done earlier and am doing right now. So far so smooth, less then 10seconds wait!

    Sure it sucks to be stuck behind log in screen while you may have requested dayoffs from work. But you should have expected this, it's launch month. I consider myself lucky to be able to get in during the day. Max I've waited in line was 46 mins. Official launch day would be more congested I assume, so get yourself mentally ready for what is to come.
    Besides we have two years to wander, why rush it?
    I disagree the problem isn't the queue time. The problem is the error 2002 you get while trying to get into the queue and even while in the queue. I would probably go as far to say that this expansion has actually been the most unsuccessful launch FF has had. I would also like to iterate that the game was delayed for an additional two weeks for QA and I would think one of the first things to check would be accessing the game. SE has had server problems since this game was released and the fact that they continue to have server issues 8 years later is completely unacceptable. Instead a simple apology and being told to deal with it. You can defend these actions all you want but would honestly be ignorant to ignore this fact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    I disagree the problem isn't the queue time. The problem is the error 2002 you get while trying to get into the queue and even while in the queue.
    Exactly this.

    What makes it worse is the memory function for the queue (which remembers your place in the case of a DC) isn't working either. Many have reported and I've experienced it myself, where sometimes you can log back in within a few minutes after an error 2002 and it'll just continue your queue, but other times you can get the error, log back in within 15 sec and it fully resets.
    Waiting in a queue would be fine if the queue worked. But with the high chance of being disconnected and having your queue reset, you're literally waiting hours for a dice roll. The longer the queue, the worse your odds.

    I'll still be patient and understanding and even feel bad for SE because it can't be an easy situation, but not appreciative since I'm currently paying a subscription for this. It's a bad launch. They knew it would be and warned us, but that doesn't make it a good thing. It's rough for them, but they're a business selling a product, it's on them.
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    Not even kidding when I say I was in spot number 1 in queu and got hit with the 2002. Got back in at number 4633.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    I disagree the problem isn't the queue time. The problem is the error 2002 you get while trying to get into the queue and even while in the queue. I would probably go as far to say that this expansion has actually been the most unsuccessful launch FF has had. I would also like to iterate that the game was delayed for an additional two weeks for QA and I would think one of the first things to check would be accessing the game. SE has had server problems since this game was released and the fact that they continue to have server issues 8 years later is completely unacceptable. Instead a simple apology and being told to deal with it. You can defend these actions all you want but would honestly be ignorant to ignore this fact.
    Interesting, I know certain amount of players have reported this error 2002 problem. But a lot of us, as far as people I know and from this forum never experience this error at all. It seems to me a collective player-end issue. Just putting it here. Besides, for example, time is now 9:18am here in the east coast, there's virtually no wait time to log in. I am evidently not able to understand your frustration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LitheSuxman View Post
    Interesting, I know certain amount of players have reported this error 2002 problem. But a lot of us, as far as people I know and from this forum never experience this error at all. It seems to me a collective player-end issue. Just putting it here. Besides, for example, time is now 9:18am here in the east coast, there's virtually no wait time to log in. I am evidently not able to understand your frustration.
    Some have encountered the error some haven't, but one feature that some people aren't using and even if they want to use most times it doesn't work is the Visit Another World on the character screen, this would help a few people play the EA on low populated servers, until things go back to normal, but the feature isn't always available. And i do agree when people say this is probably the worst launch, ARR EA was bad but not as bad as this EndWalker EA, since yesterday I was able to only play for 3 hours the rest was me giving up on staying on a large queue of 8k just to get error 2002 out and going to the back of the queue.
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    Just here to point out that me and the majority of my guild have experienced the 2002 problem. It's not just some small "collective player-end issue." If you experience a 3000+ queue (which is common for peak hours) then there is a great chance you will come in contact with this issue. The people screaming for refunds are overreacting sure but brushing off the problem just because you haven't experienced it on a Saturday morning just comes off as condescending. It really shouldn't have to be said that it's not ok to have to have your customer sit through the same 30-40 minute queue only to be kicked out at the end and have to restart the queue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LitheSuxman View Post
    Interesting, I know certain amount of players have reported this error 2002 problem. But a lot of us, as far as people I know and from this forum never experience this error at all. It seems to me a collective player-end issue. Just putting it here. Besides, for example, time is now 9:18am here in the east coast, there's virtually no wait time to log in. I am evidently not able to understand your frustration.
    Once again being ignorant of the issue does not mean the issue does not exist. Again this is a clear example of not addressing issues. SE does wrong they honestly are not a good company and have not been for well over 10 years. And the issue is not a player-end issue. The issue is with the fail safe they implemented as you can read about in there apology ahead of time for the launch. It seems obvious when the log-in server reaches its thresh hold instead of preventing people from getting into the queue is simply starts removing people from it. How it decides who to remove or if it out right crashes I am not sure as I did not implement it. Now why don't you log out around peak hours and try to sign in and experience the problem others are having instead of willingly ignoring this and praising the almighty Yoshi P.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    Most if not every MMO has rough launches cause the corp behind it doesn't want to pay too much for new hardware which will become useless once the initial hype dies down. Every MMO does that and it is a well known practice and they all say the same "We didn't expected so many players". And yes this is the case even if semi conductors would rain from the sky and covid would be healed by a miracle, why buying new servers when it goes anyways back to normal in like two weeks?

    It's just good business at the end of the day, for every company that brings out MMOs.
    It's good business practice for profits sure. So are micro transaction and other horrible things that are ruining the gaming industry. Also this game has had notorious server problems for several years now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    It's good business practice for profits sure. So are micro transaction and other horrible things that are ruining the gaming industry. Also this game has had notorious server problems for several years now.
    Yeah just pointing the facts out cause fellas always come around the corner with the semi conductors. Sure they play a huge role but at the end MMOs and every game that needs servers give us rough launches cause they don't just set up tons of hardware for nothing.

    ARR had a rough launch, HW had a rough launch and yeah also Stormblood and ShB. All before the world just turned into a giant kuponut and still there are always rough launches, in every MMO. Someday people will learn that and don't just focus on silly excuses.
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