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    Sililos's Avatar
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    Sililos Sanura
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    Dancer Lv 100

    2.45 second recast timer on Dancer HURTS

    Was wondering why everything felt so slow since launch, like being in molasse's and just noticed the timer change.

    Knew they said stats were being nerfed, but I didn't think they were being nerfed out of existence entirely.

    Zero gear and a weapon with almost no stats: 2.50
    Full Augmented cryptlurker gear and materia: 2.45

    Feels like SE went a bit too overboard...
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    GrizzlyTank's Avatar
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Dancer should just have had a 1.5 gcd seeing how it's rotation is so simple.
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sililos View Post
    Was wondering why everything felt so slow since launch, like being in molasse's and just noticed the timer change.

    Knew they said stats were being nerfed, but I didn't think they were being nerfed out of existence entirely.

    Zero gear and a weapon with almost no stats: 2.50
    Full Augmented cryptlurker gear and materia: 2.45

    Feels like SE went a bit too overboard...
    You realize Cryptlurker has almost no SkS right?
    88 on the boots, 69 on the Earring.
    No other Cryptlurker pieces have Skill Speed

    My jank, thrown together DNC set at i480 has the GCD at 2.38 with a SkS of 840 by comparison.
    If you wanna go fast ... Invest in some Skill Speed maybe?
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    Sililos Sanura
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    Yeah I plan to toss on some skill speed the next time im in a town (Out in the field questing atm)

    All i know is, pre Endwalker, I had around a 1.5-1.8 cast time, things raced very well, I forget how much exactly.
    The change is... jarring.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Zalera
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    That's typical on expansion. Your previous stats were for near-endgame, you are no longer near endgame. Rebalancing for new level cap and stats available means what you had isn't going to feel as powerful.
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    Edge Void
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    Ragnarok
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    That's typical on expansion. Your previous stats were for near-endgame, you are no longer near endgame. Rebalancing for new level cap and stats available means what you had isn't going to feel as powerful.
    This is true and can even be tested.

    Get yourself a lv 50 set with some skillspeed, queue for a lv 50 dungeon, your Global will be pretty fast.
    Now unsync it and your Global will be almost 2.5 sec.

    There is a constant squish after every expansion, im not sure how the system calculates it though.
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Skill Speed is bad on DNC anyway. A 2.5 gcd divides perfectly into 12 GCD's during Standard Steps 30 second cooldown. When you add SkS Standard either starts to drift, or you have to clip, to use it on cooldown.

    The ideal stats for DNC are as close to 0 SkS as possible.
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    Lorelai Oshidari
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    Diabolos
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    Skill Speed is bad on DNC anyway. A 2.5 gcd divides perfectly into 12 GCD's during Standard Steps 30 second cooldown. When you add SkS Standard either starts to drift, or you have to clip, to use it on cooldown.

    The ideal stats for DNC are as close to 0 SkS as possible.
    This is the correct answer.
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    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Jimbo Jimbo
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Running SKS on dancer isn't recommended. In fact all the ranged dps want 0 sks as it messes up the rotation alignment when it is lower than 2.5s gcd. You may want to do research before making topics like this.
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    Livia Bloodletter
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    Phoenix
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    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    This is the correct answer.
    More like a depressingly boring answer.

    Quite like the rotation of dnc, but the gcd is way too low for it which results in the steps being the only engaging part of their rotation.
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