Audio popping issue

[ShadowedStranger]

EDIT: Nice job deleting a post from someone who was trying to fix it, that's a good look.

What was the deleted post?

[Elliah-Seraheart]

I've been thinking about what we can do for a while. I have a plan - but I need some people to help me out.
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1.) I want to make a survey about the audio issues community members can fill out. I'd use google surveys for that. It would include a few questions, specs, tests, and a way to link to their results, their previous bug report, forum posts etc. This would allow for a lot of data to be neatly compiled in a very short amount of time. It would also centralize all the data, and give Square a good idea of what range of issues are experiences on what hardware, and what exactly is happening in each individual case. It would actually be two surveys. One in english and one in japanese.
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2.) I would like to make a collective community bug report, using said data, both here on the english forums and on the jp forums. This bug report would summarize everything and be posted as a collective community bug report, using the survey's data.
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3.) I would like to send a letter to a few key people - Masayoshi Soken (Primals Member, Sound Director), Yoshi P, Michael Christopher Koji Fox (Primals member and english-japanese translator), whoever is behind /u/embodygoblin, and maybe 1 or 2 ff14 streamers and/or gameing journalists. The letters would inform the people in a respectful way about the issues, and link them the survey with the data, as well as key findings and a timeline of things.
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I can do the survey thing by myself - but would probably benefit from someone looking it over before I send it out in the next days for people to answer.

I definitely need help with the letters though. Unforunately, as you all probably figured out, I'm terrible with people (I've been playing this game 100% solo for a reason). I also can also only speak english, german and some italian. I need someone to help me with the letters, especially in japanese - so I dont come across as rude, disrespectful etc. I would also need someone to look over the grammar, because I know my long, winded sentences probably translate horribly. Which is bad.

I also do not have or use social media. I do not have a a twitter/facebook/instagram. I do not use discord. All I have is reddit. And I'm not sure I want people to know my reddit. I also dont know much about the korean social media space, and do not know where to post the surveys. So I'd also need someone to post the surveys for me.

If you can help me do any of the above - pls contact me. I want to make a discord dedicated to working on the above things. Contact me either here, or on steam friend code 156890123 or at praggyd@gmail.com so I can invite you.

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I'm going to join your discord. Can you help me out with any of that?

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Thank you for your post. Would you be willing to help out, even if just a little too? Like, looking over the translated letters to make sure they make sense and are not accidentally rude? Maybe the same for the few questions for the survey? Maybe help us post the survey somewhere, where the japanese community sees it?

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私はしばらくの間、私たちに何ができるかを考えてきました。私には計画がありますが、私を助けるために何人かの人々が必要です。

1.）コミュニティメンバーが記入できる音声の問題について調査したい。そのためにグーグル調査を使用します。いくつかの質問、仕様、テスト、およびそれらの結果、以前のバグレポート、フォーラムの投稿などにリンクする方法が含まれます。これにより、非常に短い時間で大量のデータを適切にコンパイルできます。また、すべてのデータを一元化し、Squareに、どのハードウェアでの経験である問題の範囲と、個々のケースで正確に何が起こっているかについての良いアイデアを提供します。実際には2回の調査になります。 1つは英語、もう1つは日本語です。
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2.）ここ英語フォーラムとjpフォーラムの両方で、上記のデータを使用して、集合的なコミュニティバグレポートを作成したいと思います。このバグレポートはすべてを要約し、調査のデータを使用して集合的なコミュニティバグレポートとして投稿されます。
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3.）数人のキーパーソンに手紙を送りたい-[B]祖堅正慶[/ B]（主席メンバー、音響監督）、[B]吉田[/ B]、[B]マイケル・クリストファー・コウジ・フォックス[/ B]（プライマリーメンバーおよび英日本語翻訳者）、[B] / u / embodygoblin [/ B]の背後にいる人、およびおそらく1つまたは2つの[B] ff14ストリーマー[/ B]および/または[B]ゲームジャーナリスト[/ B]。手紙は人々に問題について敬意を持って知らせ、彼らに調査をデータ、そして重要な発見と物事のタイムラインと結びつけます。
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私は自分で調査を行うことができますが、次の日に人々が回答するために送信する前に、誰かが調査を確認することでおそらく恩恵を受けるでしょう。

私は間違いなく手紙の助けが必要です。残念ながら、皆さんもお気づきかもしれませんが、私は人とひどいです（私はこのゲームを100％ソロでプレイしている理由があります）。また、英語、ドイツ語、一部のイタリア語しか話せません。特に日本語の文字を手伝ってくれる人が必要です。失礼なことや無礼なことなどはありません。また、長くて曲がりくねった文章が恐ろしく翻訳されることを知っているので、文法を調べる人も必要です。どちらが悪いです。

私もソーシャルメディアを持っていないか、使用していません。ツイッター/フェイスブック/インスタグラムを持っていません。私は不和を使いません。私が持っているのはredditだけです。そして、私は人々に私のredditを知ってもらいたいかどうかわかりません。また、韓国のソーシャルメディアスペースについてはよくわかりません。また、調査をどこに投稿すればよいかわかりません。ですから、私のために調査を投稿してくれる人も必要です。

あなたが私が上記のいずれかをするのを手伝うことができるならば-plsは私に連絡します。 私は上記のことに取り組むことに専念する不和を作りたいです。こちら、Steamフレンドコード156890123、またはpraggyd@gmail.com で私に連絡してください。招待させていただきます。

スナップ

私はあなたの不和に加わるつもりです。それについて私を助けてくれませんか？

スナップ

投稿ありがとうございます。少しでも手伝ってくれませんか？たとえば、翻訳された文字を調べて、意味があり、誤って失礼でないことを確認しますか？調査のいくつかの質問についても同じでしょうか？たぶん、日本のコミュニティが見ているどこかに調査を投稿するのを手伝ってくれませんか？

[GorthRedsteel]

>they still think they can change anything when this thread alone with 85k views is a proof that SE don't care
lol
Just check FF7 remake - that game has the exact same issue and been out for months. Good luck trying to get it fixed. Better upgrade your hardware than to waste hours upon hours of worthless begging for devs to react.

[shandreax]

yeah after dealing with this issue since launch of endwalker the horrible world/instance transfer system or just the ability to log on.. I have really begun to lose faith in an actual good result on these matters.

[DendrielConcade]

>they still think they can change anything when this thread alone with 85k views is a proof that SE don't care
lol
Just check FF7 remake - that game has the exact same issue and been out for months. Good luck trying to get it fixed. Better upgrade your hardware than to waste hours upon hours of worthless begging for devs to react.

I'd suggest you go be a killjoy somewhere else. FF7:Re and FF14 are made by completely different divisions in the company choking on the same Business Deal. I can fully assume it will be fixed, we just don't know when but at least people have the damn heart to try what they can to potentially expedite the process.

[GorthRedsteel]

I'd suggest you go be a killjoy somewhere else. FF7:Re and FF14 are made by completely different divisions in the company choking on the same Business Deal. I can fully assume it will be fixed, we just don't know when but at least people have the damn heart to try what they can to potentially expedite the process.

Cope. Enjoy waiting months for that. Oh, I hope you don't expect to see it resolved with tomorrow's patch. lel

[1043]

First of all, check if the current problem has been solved after applying the patch on January 4.
If there is no improvement after the patch is applied, we will report the problem in the Japanese forum.

If you would like to post another thread on this issue in the Japanese forum, I will leave a comment in that thread.
If you post another thread on this issue in the Japanese forum, I will leave a comment in that thread.
I am fully aware of what you have done and what you want to say.
So I don't think it's necessary for me to translate it again.

I agree that you should aggregate and report the data you have collected.
I think it would be a good idea to create a thread to call out the procedure.
Japanese players are not indifferent to this issue.
The question of whether or not they will cooperate is another matter.
It might be a good idea to start with a call to action and see the response.

I don't agree with your suggestion to send a message to Soken and Yoshida.
They have a very busy schedule. If they want to raise an issue on the forum, I think it is better to follow their wishes.
They are the head of the FF14 team, and while I understand their desire to raise issues directly, it is up to the entire FF14 team to actually address the issue, not them personally.

In my opinion, the difference in temperature between Japanese users and international users on this issue is due to the Japanese temperament.
One of the most common ways of thinking among Japanese people is to remain calm about things that they cannot control or solve with their own feelings.
I believe this is the case with this issue.

As you have verified, in order to solve this problem, the FF14 team needs to be well aware of this issue and work hard to improve it.
There is very little and only limited things that users can do.
Depending on the environment of the PC, it may be possible for the user to solve this problem, but in the environment where this problem is most pronounced (AMD-FX CPU), there is no solution and it seems that there is no solution other than fixing the FF14 sound driver.

Either way, the first thing to do is to see if the January 4 patch fixes this problem.
We will see what we can do about this problem after that.

[MediArgentum]

I am Japanese and I can't speak English.
This message is translated and posted on the translation site.
I think there is a strange sentence, but please forgive me.

I'm always checking this thread
I also know that you guys are serious about how to solve this problem.
I tried all the proposed ways to mitigate the problem in this thread
None of this solution was solved in my PC environment.
The only mitigation was to enable Immerse Spatial Audio.

It is true that Japanese users have not discussed this issue much,
Some people, like you, take this issue seriously.
Some bug reporting threads report this issue
There are many users who are suffering from this issue even in Twitter posts
I have no idea what's technical.
It is worth your gratitude and admiration that you have figured out the essence of this problem.
We strongly hope that the operation will review the resolution presented in this thread and resolve it in the next patch.

If the next patch does not resolve, I will raise this issue in a Japanese thread.
First of all, I would like to see if the january 4 patch has been resolved.

I don't know if it's transmitted well,
I just wanted to tell you that Japanese users are not indifferent to this issue.

JP: ありがとうございます！　日本の掲示板での報告が増えれば、とても助かると思います。 僕は日本語が下手なのでよろしくおねがいします。 この問題は、新しいサウンドエンジンが、サラウンド効果を得るためにオーディオを変更するために多くの計算を行うことに起因しています。 これらの計算は、多くのAMDプロセッサーや、他のいくつかのチップセットにとって問題なのです。 その理由は分かりませんが、以前のサウンドエンジンが完璧に動作していたことは確かです。　だから、以前のサウンドエンジンを使用する選択肢を与えてくれるよう、開発者にお願いしてください。

EN: Thank you very much! I think it would be very helpful if there were more reports on the Japanese forum. I'm not very good at Japanese, so thank you in advance. This problem is due to the fact that the new sound engine does a lot of calculations to modify the audio to get the surround effect. These calculations are a problem for many AMD processors and some other chipsets. I don't know the reason for this, but I do know that the previous sound engine worked flawlessly. So please ask the developers to give us the option to use the previous sound engine.

[ShadowedStranger]

So, how many NFTs do they want us to buy before they fix their sound engine?

[DendrielConcade]

So I had a fluke incident where I was doing Trial Roulette, got the 6th Encounter in Stormblood(Kitty), and was still of course stuck with the sound issue. I guess in a fit of annoyance I shook my camera violently and it temporarily fixed my audio??? This isn't a blanket fix, even after no audio disruptions going into Normal Raid Roulette the sound issue came back like it never left when I entered Leveling. No matter how much I flailed the camera around in that dungeon, it may have only gotten a brief second of relief. I'm not sure if single encounters can be "fixed" with this ridiculous method across the board(Really doubt it), but its worth a desperate fleeting grasp if it can be replicated consistently.

This isn't a joke either, I don't feel like messing with people for no good reason but it happened for me and it could happen for you.