Audio popping issue

[minopoki]

I don't want to repeat myself nor spam but I advice you all to try this out if you truly have horrible issues with your sound. It doesn't take long to try yet it might save you from long lasting annoyance.

Well, I hadn't done it before because I was scared to sh*t of damaging my hardware, but I finally did it, and honestly, audio stuttering seemed even worse, happening more frequently.

So, explaining the situation: my AMD FX-8370E usually runs at 3.3GHz. I first changed it to 3.6GHz and it was no good. Right now I'm at 4.1GHz and no good again. I really don't intend to try higher speeds.

One maybe strange thing is that, although overclocked, my CPU Cores stays most of the time at 1.4GHz, even when playing the game, and occasionally, they change to 3.6GHz or 4.1Ghz.
Don't know if that's to be expected, or if some configuration from the BIOS is preventing it to run at maximum power (I disabled cool n' quiet).
Is this how it is supposed to behave, or is something not right at my environment?

The image below helps to illustrate the situation:

EDIT:
So, additionally to Coll 'n Quiet, I also disabled an AMD Turbo CPU (or something like that) option in the BIOS, and now, when overclocked to 4.1GHz, my CPUs don't stop at 3.6GHz anymore, they just switch between 1.4GHz and 4.1GHz.
It really seems that, when they are at 4.1GHz the stuttering doesn't occur, although, I can't be sure if it fixes 100%.
The problem is that, most of the time, me CPUs stay at 1.4GHz. I have even set Windows power options so that CPU minimum speed is 100%, but it still stays at 1.4GHz most of the time.
Although I fear for my CPU temperature, I would at least try to test how it would go if I could keep it at 4.1GHz for long time intervals, but I really don't know what to do...

[XenophineEX]

Well, I hadn't done it before because I was scared to sh*t of damaging my hardware, but I finally did it, and honestly, audio stuttering seemed even worse, happening more frequently.

So, explaining the situation: my AMD FX-8370E usually runs at 3.3GHz. I first changed it to 3.6GHz and it was no good. Right now I'm at 4.1GHz and no good again. I really don't intend to try higher speeds.

One maybe strange thing is that, although overclocked, my CPU Cores stays most of the time at 1.4GHz, even when playing the game, and occasionally, they change to 3.6GHz or 4.1Ghz.
Don't know if that's to be expected, or if some configuration from the BIOS is preventing it to run at maximum power (I disabled cool n' quiet).
Is this how it is supposed to behave, or is something not right at my environment?

The image below helps to illustrate the situation:

70c = 158 degrees Fahrenheit. 75c = 167 degrees Fahrenheit. 25 more c's and you can boil water.

Your processor is so hot it is throttling itself to prevent damage. Cool it off.

Think of it this way, humans can over-heat and die at 103 F, treat your pc the same way.

It is widely known AMD run very hot, hence why they are cheaper among other things. You want a good after market cooling system for any AMD processor you buy, never use stock. I use this with dual fans...

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmt...r-rr212e20pkr2

Be aware though that that particular one is 6 inches tall and might block your ram slots depending on your board. With 2 big fans on it, it is very big. If I were to put the side of my case back on with it, it would be touching it. (I also bought my own 2 fans for it, I did use the stock one it comes with, I just stuck the stock one on the back of the pc to blow air out.) I bought 2 4 pin fans for either side of it that go to 2400 rpm and can be dual controlled. (hence the 4th pin) btw they come with an adapter cable connected so you can have 2 synced to 1 4 pin slot. Fan orientation is also key... don't want them both blowing in, nor do you want both blowing out, goal is to create air flow between the aluminum radiator fins so it can dissipate heat. So one blowing in, preferably on the side with fresh air, 1 blowing away from the fins, this can be reversed as well if you keep your house at 90 degrees. In which case you want all air flow to be pointed outwards. Or just lie the pc down on its side and take the side of the case off. The only downside is looks there and occasional dusting.

[minopoki]

Your processor is so hot it is throttling itself to prevent damage. Cool it off.

Back to this subject, I've finally been able to lower my temperatures.
It turns out the problem wasn't my coolers being too old, but, and I am ashamed to say it, but because my radiator was FILTHY
After CLEANING it (and only superficially, for I haven't removed it to clean it), my temperature average dropped about 20ºC
The image below shows how it got after playing the game for about 10-20 minutes, much much better than my previous temperature numbers:

So, when my CPU stays at 4.1GHz, game doesn't stutter (although, I'm not sure if it's 100% good), but the thing is my CPU STILL THROTTLES.
When the Temperature #1 of the image above gets to 58-60ºC, the CPU throttles, and goes down to 1.4GHz, and stutter keeps happening.
(Differently to what I have said before, Temperature #1 seems to be the MB CPU Socket temperature, and not the MB temperature, which is likely to be Temperature #2)

Before cleaning the radiator, it would throttle at 75ºC, but now at 58ºC, which is weird, considering the specifications say my CPU max temperature is 70.5ºC.

Lowering the game graphical settings to the lowest, and even FPS to 30, makes it throttle less, but it still happens.

I still have some things to try the next few days:
- a better cleaning of radiator, by removing it and taking out all of the dust that's still there;
- one of my 3 internal fans (not the CPU ones) is not moving, so replacing it might help;
- trying other suggestions from this thread to relieve stress.

But if someone has any suggestions on how to avoid throttling, I would appreciate it.
Not sure if GPU being around 70ºC makes any difference. I heard this value was ok for GPUs...

[Larirawiel]

I might be totally off-base on this, but this seems to line up with what RinKaenbyou was saying here: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5794011

Umm, i don't know. The poster meant "buffers". But "buffers" is an abstract concept and can mean many things. I guess the poster means soundbuffers in the game application. If so then it has not really something to do with that what i meant. I meant very low level things on CPU register level. If you choose a not fitting data type then the CPU has to emulate it. And emulations are usually very slow.

So, when my CPU stays at 4.1GHz, game doesn't stutter (although, I'm not sure if it's 100% good), but the thing is my CPU STILL THROTTLES.
When the Temperature #1 of the image above gets to 58-60ºC, the CPU throttles, and goes down to 1.4GHz, and stutter keeps happening.
(Differently to what I have said before, Temperature #1 seems to be the MB CPU Socket temperature, and not the MB temperature, which is likely to be Temperature #2)

The two temperatures are your motherboard temperatures. Your CPU temperature is the third one under AMD FX-8370E. And 48,6 °C is very good.


Cheers

[minopoki]

The two temperatures are your motherboard temperatures. Your CPU temperature is the third one under AMD FX-8370E. And 48,6 °C is very good.

Yes, but from the information I found on Google, one of them, although measured by the motherboard, is the temperature of the CPU Socket -- not from the CPU itself, but from the part of the motherboard where the CPU is connected.
When i go to the BIOS, after resetting just my PC, I can see there too, two measures of temperature, one of them described as CPU Temperature, whose value is about the same that was shown in the Temperature #1 value just before I reset the PC, rather than the value shown under AMD FX-8370E.


Anyway, combining the two suggestions below along with the overclock, seems to have helped reducing CPU throttle and consequently, audio stuttering too. I have to leave right now, when I'm back tonight, I'll check these things better, thanks people.

1. Download DXVK, the dxvk-1.9.2.tar.gz from https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases/tag/v1.9.2

2. Open it with 7-zip or another tool which can open tar.gz-files.

3. Navigate into the x64-folder.

4. Copy the files: d3d11.dll and dxgi.dll into the FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn\game directory of your FF14 installation

5. Restart the client

If you have an amd processor the game is not using all your cores, and is bottlenecking itself. Easy fix is too overclock your cpu till the official fix comes through. Luckily for AMD even if something is only using 2 cores, if you over clock enough you can get as much throughput as using all of them. To test this, try setting affinity to 2 cores in the game.

[XenophineEX]

Back to this subject, I've finally been able to lower my temperatures.
It turns out the problem wasn't my coolers being too old, but, and I am ashamed to say it, but because my radiator was FILTHY
After CLEANING it (and only superficially, for I haven't removed it to clean it), my temperature average dropped about 20ºC
The image below shows how it got after playing the game for about 10-20 minutes, much much better than my previous temperature numbers:

So, when my CPU stays at 4.1GHz, game doesn't stutter (although, I'm not sure if it's 100% good), but the thing is my CPU STILL THROTTLES.
When the Temperature #1 of the image above gets to 58-60ºC, the CPU throttles, and goes down to 1.4GHz, and stutter keeps happening.
(Differently to what I have said before, Temperature #1 seems to be the MB CPU Socket temperature, and not the MB temperature, which is likely to be Temperature #2)

Before cleaning the radiator, it would throttle at 75ºC, but now at 58ºC, which is weird, considering the specifications say my CPU max temperature is 70.5ºC.

Lowering the game graphical settings to the lowest, and even FPS to 30, makes it throttle less, but it still happens.

I still have some things to try the next few days:
- a better cleaning of radiator, by removing it and taking out all of the dust that's still there;
- one of my 3 internal fans (not the CPU ones) is not moving, so replacing it might help;
- trying other suggestions from this thread to relieve stress.

But if someone has any suggestions on how to avoid throttling, I would appreciate it.
Not sure if GPU being around 70ºC makes any difference. I heard this value was ok for GPUs...

Glad that worked out for you. As far as throttling, if it isn't your temperatures you need to check you pc power settings. "Full power", nothing turns off till you turn it off needs to be set. Having a faulty fan that isn't even moving is directing power to a node that isn't spinning, eventually it will get so hot it melts and could potentially start a fire; so you need to fix that. System specifications for "max" temp mean that is the point the product starts to fail. It will start failing long before it gets there as well, that is just the point their testing indicated it happened all the time. And anything past max could permanently damage the equipment.

[XenophineEX]

Well, I hadn't done it before because I was scared to sh*t of damaging my hardware, but I finally did it, and honestly, audio stuttering seemed even worse, happening more frequently.

So, explaining the situation: my AMD FX-8370E usually runs at 3.3GHz. I first changed it to 3.6GHz and it was no good. Right now I'm at 4.1GHz and no good again. I really don't intend to try higher speeds.

One maybe strange thing is that, although overclocked, my CPU Cores stays most of the time at 1.4GHz, even when playing the game, and occasionally, they change to 3.6GHz or 4.1Ghz.
Don't know if that's to be expected, or if some configuration from the BIOS is preventing it to run at maximum power (I disabled cool n' quiet).
Is this how it is supposed to behave, or is something not right at my environment?

The image below helps to illustrate the situation:

EDIT:
So, additionally to Coll 'n Quiet, I also disabled an AMD Turbo CPU (or something like that) option in the BIOS, and now, when overclocked to 4.1GHz, my CPUs don't stop at 3.6GHz anymore, they just switch between 1.4GHz and 4.1GHz.
It really seems that, when they are at 4.1GHz the stuttering doesn't occur, although, I can't be sure if it fixes 100%.
The problem is that, most of the time, me CPUs stay at 1.4GHz. I have even set Windows power options so that CPU minimum speed is 100%, but it still stays at 1.4GHz most of the time.
Although I fear for my CPU temperature, I would at least try to test how it would go if I could keep it at 4.1GHz for long time intervals, but I really don't know what to do...

Nope, keep turbo on, turn off cool and quiet, cool and quiet will throttle to reduce "noise". Turbo will boost to your maximum set over clock settings when they exceed system manufactured specs. Neither one of those options give you control of your fan speed which you really need to set to 95% to test any of this. Turbo only turns on when the processors hits max, so if you are monitering you may never see it get that high, that is because nothing has required it too run that high or running that high would shut your system off as a fail safe because of over heating.

Did you try msi command center?
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/970-...ver&Win10%2064

the one from msi is this
Title
Command Center
Version
1.0.1.27
Release Date
2021-09-17
File Size
23.43 MB

It says MSI but it works for both chips, intel and amd regardless of msi board... which is why they make it difficult to download.

For more specifics on msi command center...
https://www.msi.com/support/technica...DT_MSI_Utility