Audio popping issue

[GorthRedsteel]

trying to spam this issue away by flooding it with hundreds of thousands of posts will only see the issue ignored. Perhaps you haven't noticed that this particular director doesn't buckle under floods.

Nor should he.

A investigation should be commenced of all audio output, mainly aimed at all new sound effects and combos effects introduced in this latest expansion.

Furthermore all sound affected by this new paid plug-in and all changes made to all sound channels need also be investigated.

What I have suggested alone will take the team 3 months to finish. They also have other duties introducing new parts of the latest expansion. They have to work along-side, and surpass the updates that will be coming for the story.

This isn't an excuse, rather than an explanation as to what is going on and their thoughts going forward. They will not be delaying the new expansion pack story to fix this, it all has to be done along side and past it.

Therefore it would behoove all involved to try to fix or mitigate the issues the best they can on their end until the source is corrected. I.E. overclocking your AMD processor, enabling virtual ram on separate drives other than the one running FFXIV, Making sure you aren't watching or streaming anything while playing.

for me on a msi 960 board; AMD FX(tm)-6300 Six-Core Processor 3.50 GHz, I get it to stop stuttering when I overclock via msi command center as follows... (ratio) 21.5/ (base clock) 201.00 with fans running at 95%

that brings it to 4.1 - 4.5 ghz it will fluctuate if on a msi board to demand.

People might have dismissed this post of yours thanks to all other ramblings you love to do in this thread, but surprisingly this had a DRASTIC IMPROVEMENT for me. I have finished Stormblood and its patch content today and had NO STUTTERING/VO CUTTING OUT during all of the cutscenes. The problems stills comes up in combat but I can deal with that. It's barely noticeable for me atm. Before overclocking my CPU, 85% of the dialog cutscenes had been HORRIBLE. Constant stuttering and audio popping, with acted out lines being slowed down to a point of cutting out halfway through text. Sometimes it would be a constant ear rape and nothing more - it was THAT bad. I have no idea how I was able finish ARR, with addition of full HW, and most of SB. Surly, that has reduced my potential enjoyment of these storylines but that's in the past now. Now I'm ready to have fun with Shadowbringers as that's the one expansion everyone praises over all. Can't wait!
For people still confused on what to do - I suggest you watch this short video as it explains what to do rather well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owrc2WWZS9w
CPU I own is AMD FX 8120. For it I've tried few different set ups but the one that seems the most stable is 4,1 GHz. I'm confident I could go higher but I really didn't wanna increase voltage control in BIOS as I use a dogshit stock cooler. I had troubles with overheating in the past. I'd also recommend changing your power plan to BALANCED (Control Panel > System and Security > Power Options) if you also have a shite cooling in your machine. It might feel redundant but I swear it helped me achieve peace regarding the sound issue.
Apologies for a chaotic comment but I'm tired AF, been up the whole day. Once again thank you Xenophine, and I hope others might find this useful. Good luck!

[GorthRedsteel]

People might have dismissed this post of yours thanks to all other ramblings you love to do in this thread, but surprisingly this had a DRASTIC IMPROVEMENT for me. I have finished Stormblood and its patch content today and had NO STUTTERING/VO CUTTING OUT during all of the cutscenes. The problems stills comes up in combat but I can deal with that. It's barely noticeable for me atm. Before overclocking my CPU, 85% of the dialog cutscenes had been HORRIBLE. Constant stuttering and audio popping, with acted out lines being slowed down to a point of cutting out halfway through text. Sometimes it would be a constant ear rape and nothing more - it was THAT bad. I have no idea how I was able finish ARR, with addition of full HW, and most of SB. Surly, that has reduced my potential enjoyment of these storylines but that's in the past now. Now I'm ready to have fun with Shadowbringers as that's the one expansion everyone praises over all. Can't wait!
For people still confused on what to do - I suggest you watch this short video as it explains what to do rather well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owrc2WWZS9w
CPU I own is AMD FX 8120. For it I've tried few different set ups but the one that seems the most stable is 4,1 GHz. I'm confident I could go higher but I really didn't wanna increase voltage control in BIOS as I use a dogshit stock cooler. I had troubles with overheating in the past. I'd also recommend changing your power plan to BALANCED (Control Panel > System and Security > Power Options) if you also have a shite cooling in your machine. It might feel redundant but I swear it helped me achieve peace regarding the sound issue.
Apologies for a chaotic comment but I'm tired AF, been up the whole day. Once again thank you Xenophine, and I hope others might find this useful. Good luck!

I don't want to repeat myself nor spam but I advice you all to try this out if you truly have horrible issues with your sound. It doesn't take long to try yet it might save you from long lasting annoyance.

[minopoki]

I don't want to repeat myself nor spam but I advice you all to try this out if you truly have horrible issues with your sound. It doesn't take long to try yet it might save you from long lasting annoyance.

Well, I hadn't done it before because I was scared to sh*t of damaging my hardware, but I finally did it, and honestly, audio stuttering seemed even worse, happening more frequently.

So, explaining the situation: my AMD FX-8370E usually runs at 3.3GHz. I first changed it to 3.6GHz and it was no good. Right now I'm at 4.1GHz and no good again. I really don't intend to try higher speeds.

One maybe strange thing is that, although overclocked, my CPU Cores stays most of the time at 1.4GHz, even when playing the game, and occasionally, they change to 3.6GHz or 4.1Ghz.
Don't know if that's to be expected, or if some configuration from the BIOS is preventing it to run at maximum power (I disabled cool n' quiet).
Is this how it is supposed to behave, or is something not right at my environment?

The image below helps to illustrate the situation:

EDIT:
So, additionally to Coll 'n Quiet, I also disabled an AMD Turbo CPU (or something like that) option in the BIOS, and now, when overclocked to 4.1GHz, my CPUs don't stop at 3.6GHz anymore, they just switch between 1.4GHz and 4.1GHz.
It really seems that, when they are at 4.1GHz the stuttering doesn't occur, although, I can't be sure if it fixes 100%.
The problem is that, most of the time, me CPUs stay at 1.4GHz. I have even set Windows power options so that CPU minimum speed is 100%, but it still stays at 1.4GHz most of the time.
Although I fear for my CPU temperature, I would at least try to test how it would go if I could keep it at 4.1GHz for long time intervals, but I really don't know what to do...

[XenophineEX]

Well, I hadn't done it before because I was scared to sh*t of damaging my hardware, but I finally did it, and honestly, audio stuttering seemed even worse, happening more frequently.

So, explaining the situation: my AMD FX-8370E usually runs at 3.3GHz. I first changed it to 3.6GHz and it was no good. Right now I'm at 4.1GHz and no good again. I really don't intend to try higher speeds.

One maybe strange thing is that, although overclocked, my CPU Cores stays most of the time at 1.4GHz, even when playing the game, and occasionally, they change to 3.6GHz or 4.1Ghz.
Don't know if that's to be expected, or if some configuration from the BIOS is preventing it to run at maximum power (I disabled cool n' quiet).
Is this how it is supposed to behave, or is something not right at my environment?

The image below helps to illustrate the situation:

70c = 158 degrees Fahrenheit. 75c = 167 degrees Fahrenheit. 25 more c's and you can boil water.

Your processor is so hot it is throttling itself to prevent damage. Cool it off.

Think of it this way, humans can over-heat and die at 103 F, treat your pc the same way.

It is widely known AMD run very hot, hence why they are cheaper among other things. You want a good after market cooling system for any AMD processor you buy, never use stock. I use this with dual fans...

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hmt...r-rr212e20pkr2

Be aware though that that particular one is 6 inches tall and might block your ram slots depending on your board. With 2 big fans on it, it is very big. If I were to put the side of my case back on with it, it would be touching it. (I also bought my own 2 fans for it, I did use the stock one it comes with, I just stuck the stock one on the back of the pc to blow air out.) I bought 2 4 pin fans for either side of it that go to 2400 rpm and can be dual controlled. (hence the 4th pin) btw they come with an adapter cable connected so you can have 2 synced to 1 4 pin slot. Fan orientation is also key... don't want them both blowing in, nor do you want both blowing out, goal is to create air flow between the aluminum radiator fins so it can dissipate heat. So one blowing in, preferably on the side with fresh air, 1 blowing away from the fins, this can be reversed as well if you keep your house at 90 degrees. In which case you want all air flow to be pointed outwards. Or just lie the pc down on its side and take the side of the case off. The only downside is looks there and occasional dusting.

[minopoki]

Your processor is so hot it is throttling itself to prevent damage. Cool it off.

Back to this subject, I've finally been able to lower my temperatures.
It turns out the problem wasn't my coolers being too old, but, and I am ashamed to say it, but because my radiator was FILTHY
After CLEANING it (and only superficially, for I haven't removed it to clean it), my temperature average dropped about 20ºC
The image below shows how it got after playing the game for about 10-20 minutes, much much better than my previous temperature numbers:

So, when my CPU stays at 4.1GHz, game doesn't stutter (although, I'm not sure if it's 100% good), but the thing is my CPU STILL THROTTLES.
When the Temperature #1 of the image above gets to 58-60ºC, the CPU throttles, and goes down to 1.4GHz, and stutter keeps happening.
(Differently to what I have said before, Temperature #1 seems to be the MB CPU Socket temperature, and not the MB temperature, which is likely to be Temperature #2)

Before cleaning the radiator, it would throttle at 75ºC, but now at 58ºC, which is weird, considering the specifications say my CPU max temperature is 70.5ºC.

Lowering the game graphical settings to the lowest, and even FPS to 30, makes it throttle less, but it still happens.

I still have some things to try the next few days:
- a better cleaning of radiator, by removing it and taking out all of the dust that's still there;
- one of my 3 internal fans (not the CPU ones) is not moving, so replacing it might help;
- trying other suggestions from this thread to relieve stress.

But if someone has any suggestions on how to avoid throttling, I would appreciate it.
Not sure if GPU being around 70ºC makes any difference. I heard this value was ok for GPUs...

[Larirawiel]

I might be totally off-base on this, but this seems to line up with what RinKaenbyou was saying here: https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...=1#post5794011

Umm, i don't know. The poster meant "buffers". But "buffers" is an abstract concept and can mean many things. I guess the poster means soundbuffers in the game application. If so then it has not really something to do with that what i meant. I meant very low level things on CPU register level. If you choose a not fitting data type then the CPU has to emulate it. And emulations are usually very slow.

So, when my CPU stays at 4.1GHz, game doesn't stutter (although, I'm not sure if it's 100% good), but the thing is my CPU STILL THROTTLES.
When the Temperature #1 of the image above gets to 58-60ºC, the CPU throttles, and goes down to 1.4GHz, and stutter keeps happening.
(Differently to what I have said before, Temperature #1 seems to be the MB CPU Socket temperature, and not the MB temperature, which is likely to be Temperature #2)

The two temperatures are your motherboard temperatures. Your CPU temperature is the third one under AMD FX-8370E. And 48,6 °C is very good.


Cheers

[minopoki]

The two temperatures are your motherboard temperatures. Your CPU temperature is the third one under AMD FX-8370E. And 48,6 °C is very good.

Yes, but from the information I found on Google, one of them, although measured by the motherboard, is the temperature of the CPU Socket -- not from the CPU itself, but from the part of the motherboard where the CPU is connected.
When i go to the BIOS, after resetting just my PC, I can see there too, two measures of temperature, one of them described as CPU Temperature, whose value is about the same that was shown in the Temperature #1 value just before I reset the PC, rather than the value shown under AMD FX-8370E.


Anyway, combining the two suggestions below along with the overclock, seems to have helped reducing CPU throttle and consequently, audio stuttering too. I have to leave right now, when I'm back tonight, I'll check these things better, thanks people.

1. Download DXVK, the dxvk-1.9.2.tar.gz from https://github.com/doitsujin/dxvk/releases/tag/v1.9.2

2. Open it with 7-zip or another tool which can open tar.gz-files.

3. Navigate into the x64-folder.

4. Copy the files: d3d11.dll and dxgi.dll into the FINAL FANTASY XIV - A Realm Reborn\game directory of your FF14 installation

5. Restart the client

If you have an amd processor the game is not using all your cores, and is bottlenecking itself. Easy fix is too overclock your cpu till the official fix comes through. Luckily for AMD even if something is only using 2 cores, if you over clock enough you can get as much throughput as using all of them. To test this, try setting affinity to 2 cores in the game.

[XenophineEX]

Back to this subject, I've finally been able to lower my temperatures.
It turns out the problem wasn't my coolers being too old, but, and I am ashamed to say it, but because my radiator was FILTHY
After CLEANING it (and only superficially, for I haven't removed it to clean it), my temperature average dropped about 20ºC
The image below shows how it got after playing the game for about 10-20 minutes, much much better than my previous temperature numbers:

So, when my CPU stays at 4.1GHz, game doesn't stutter (although, I'm not sure if it's 100% good), but the thing is my CPU STILL THROTTLES.
When the Temperature #1 of the image above gets to 58-60ºC, the CPU throttles, and goes down to 1.4GHz, and stutter keeps happening.
(Differently to what I have said before, Temperature #1 seems to be the MB CPU Socket temperature, and not the MB temperature, which is likely to be Temperature #2)

Before cleaning the radiator, it would throttle at 75ºC, but now at 58ºC, which is weird, considering the specifications say my CPU max temperature is 70.5ºC.

Lowering the game graphical settings to the lowest, and even FPS to 30, makes it throttle less, but it still happens.

I still have some things to try the next few days:
- a better cleaning of radiator, by removing it and taking out all of the dust that's still there;
- one of my 3 internal fans (not the CPU ones) is not moving, so replacing it might help;
- trying other suggestions from this thread to relieve stress.

But if someone has any suggestions on how to avoid throttling, I would appreciate it.
Not sure if GPU being around 70ºC makes any difference. I heard this value was ok for GPUs...

Glad that worked out for you. As far as throttling, if it isn't your temperatures you need to check you pc power settings. "Full power", nothing turns off till you turn it off needs to be set. Having a faulty fan that isn't even moving is directing power to a node that isn't spinning, eventually it will get so hot it melts and could potentially start a fire; so you need to fix that. System specifications for "max" temp mean that is the point the product starts to fail. It will start failing long before it gets there as well, that is just the point their testing indicated it happened all the time. And anything past max could permanently damage the equipment.

[XenophineEX]

Well, I hadn't done it before because I was scared to sh*t of damaging my hardware, but I finally did it, and honestly, audio stuttering seemed even worse, happening more frequently.

So, explaining the situation: my AMD FX-8370E usually runs at 3.3GHz. I first changed it to 3.6GHz and it was no good. Right now I'm at 4.1GHz and no good again. I really don't intend to try higher speeds.

One maybe strange thing is that, although overclocked, my CPU Cores stays most of the time at 1.4GHz, even when playing the game, and occasionally, they change to 3.6GHz or 4.1Ghz.
Don't know if that's to be expected, or if some configuration from the BIOS is preventing it to run at maximum power (I disabled cool n' quiet).
Is this how it is supposed to behave, or is something not right at my environment?

The image below helps to illustrate the situation:

EDIT:
So, additionally to Coll 'n Quiet, I also disabled an AMD Turbo CPU (or something like that) option in the BIOS, and now, when overclocked to 4.1GHz, my CPUs don't stop at 3.6GHz anymore, they just switch between 1.4GHz and 4.1GHz.
It really seems that, when they are at 4.1GHz the stuttering doesn't occur, although, I can't be sure if it fixes 100%.
The problem is that, most of the time, me CPUs stay at 1.4GHz. I have even set Windows power options so that CPU minimum speed is 100%, but it still stays at 1.4GHz most of the time.
Although I fear for my CPU temperature, I would at least try to test how it would go if I could keep it at 4.1GHz for long time intervals, but I really don't know what to do...

Nope, keep turbo on, turn off cool and quiet, cool and quiet will throttle to reduce "noise". Turbo will boost to your maximum set over clock settings when they exceed system manufactured specs. Neither one of those options give you control of your fan speed which you really need to set to 95% to test any of this. Turbo only turns on when the processors hits max, so if you are monitering you may never see it get that high, that is because nothing has required it too run that high or running that high would shut your system off as a fail safe because of over heating.

Did you try msi command center?
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/970-...ver&Win10%2064

the one from msi is this
Title
Command Center
Version
1.0.1.27
Release Date
2021-09-17
File Size
23.43 MB

It says MSI but it works for both chips, intel and amd regardless of msi board... which is why they make it difficult to download.

For more specifics on msi command center...
https://www.msi.com/support/technica...DT_MSI_Utility

[XenophineEX]

People might have dismissed this post of yours thanks to all other ramblings you love to do in this thread, but surprisingly this had a DRASTIC IMPROVEMENT for me. I have finished Stormblood and its patch content today and had NO STUTTERING/VO CUTTING OUT during all of the cutscenes. The problems stills comes up in combat but I can deal with that. It's barely noticeable for me atm. Before overclocking my CPU, 85% of the dialog cutscenes had been HORRIBLE. Constant stuttering and audio popping, with acted out lines being slowed down to a point of cutting out halfway through text. Sometimes it would be a constant ear rape and nothing more - it was THAT bad. I have no idea how I was able finish ARR, with addition of full HW, and most of SB. Surly, that has reduced my potential enjoyment of these storylines but that's in the past now. Now I'm ready to have fun with Shadowbringers as that's the one expansion everyone praises over all. Can't wait!
For people still confused on what to do - I suggest you watch this short video as it explains what to do rather well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owrc2WWZS9w
CPU I own is AMD FX 8120. For it I've tried few different set ups but the one that seems the most stable is 4,1 GHz. I'm confident I could go higher but I really didn't wanna increase voltage control in BIOS as I use a dogshit stock cooler. I had troubles with overheating in the past. I'd also recommend changing your power plan to BALANCED (Control Panel > System and Security > Power Options) if you also have a shite cooling in your machine. It might feel redundant but I swear it helped me achieve peace regarding the sound issue.
Apologies for a chaotic comment but I'm tired AF, been up the whole day. Once again thank you Xenophine, and I hope others might find this useful. Good luck!

Glad to see some useful information was gleaned from my "ramblings". It is good to read it worked for you. *thumbs up*

As far as cooling for me on my AMD I am using a cooler master. It is a big 6 inch radiator that towers over the CPU with 2 120mm fans on either side going at 2000+ rpm at 90%, one blowing into the radiator fins, the other blowing outwards. (with the side of the case off, and it laying on its side; motherboard bottom pointing towards gravity.)

24 - 27c is usual temps under load (78 F) with a ambient room temp of 68 F.

https://imgur.com/lZ9uxuB

as far as system usage this is it in task manager
https://imgur.com/mdBFfuh

and this is what I have set for object settings in the "other" tab for graphics
https://imgur.com/Z5rLofG

the overall graphics settings are the default on the "high laptop" preset. I haven't changed anything there.

and these are the settings in character/ character tab (battle effects)
https://imgur.com/EyAlsEE

Hope that helps.

(p.s. in regards to that "balanced power plan", you may need to set your fans manually if you do not have an msi board. They generally always run at 20% unless told specifically to run higher, or until your processor gets so hot it could boil water and cook eggs. When I first start command center the setting windows has my processor fans at is literally 14% and I am on full power mode. So be sure to check that and adjust as necessary.) (p.s.s. if you do not have an msi board, I can google some fan apps for amd to increase fan speed, beware though 100% is not advised, 90 - 95% is a-ok to keep it spinning as long as possible.)
(p.s.s.s. after looking your best bet is command center from msi, and msi afterburner for amd cards. If you afterburner you will need to enable processor control and fans for it to adjust. Msi command center "should" let you adjust your amd processor fans even if you aren't on a msi board. Let me know if it doesn't work.)