Non HQ New parts

[Green_and_a_Half]

To make the new gear / weapons, like in the video, you HAVE to HQ one of the mats needed to make it. So where does the NQ get used?
Obelisk Head
HQ:Flawless Obelisk Head
Darksteel Ingot
Darksteel Nugget
Darksteel Nugget
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...ssId=&rankId=6
Example
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post660466

Also, Coke: Reagent A hot-burning fuel created by destructively distilling raw coal.
We have coal in the game?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coke_(fuel)
But no info on where it comes from, http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post660468 or new npc selling items like last patch notes, or a post about a mob dropping it.
Please post as soon as some one finds where its from.

[Shosasosa]

finding a coke dealer isnt exactly the easiest thing to do all the time.

[Sigmakan]

You turn it back into a raw material:
http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...ssId=&rankId=#

Making a Obelisk head takes 1 DS Ingot and 2 Nuggets. If you get a NQ you can smelt that back down into 1 nugget.

[Green_and_a_Half]

WOW. so HQ or GTFO huh.
Any guesses on ward price for these. Im going to spend all night on these if the coke is obtainable.

[Sigmakan]

Probably start out at 2-5mil, in a week itll be down to 200k

[Green_and_a_Half]

Im going to focus just on these weapons, people want the pretties.
but i think you are right, HQ part = 1 mil, weapon/armor = 3 mil

[EllyWren]

If I'm reading this correctly, the new crafted weapons and armor are all going to REQUIRE that you NOT be in the job associated with that class to use them.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...459#post660459

Notice how the Pugilist's Arms, Avengers, say "Requires: PGL" while the Garuda's Talons right next to displays the more familiar syntax, "Requires: PGL MNK." Same goes for all of the Heavy Darksteel items, "Requires: GLA MRD."

Are people really going to want to give up all of the abilities of their jobs just for these new items? I can see in certain situations where people still use their classes rather than jobs benefiting from this (using THM for safety and flexibility, or tanking on GLA for example) but I think in the vast majority of cases the answer would be no. Anyone else concerned by this?

[Green_and_a_Half]

All darksteel armor is gld mrd
Heavy Darksteel Armor Full Plate Required Level: 49／Requires: GLA MRD
but you are correct for the 4 new weapons
New recipes include weapons, armor, and accessories.
* New weapon recipes planned for patch 1.22 are for gladiator, pugilist, marauder, and lancer classes only. Weapons for other classes are planned for release sometime after patch 1.22a.
Which only 4 are available

If I'm reading this correctly, the new crafted weapons and armor are all going to REQUIRE that you NOT be in the job associated with that class to use them.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...459#post660459

Notice how the Pugilist's Arms, Avengers, say "Requires: PGL" while the Garuda's Talons right next to displays the more familiar syntax, "Requires: PGL MNK." Same goes for all of the Heavy Darksteel items, "Requires: GLA MRD."

Are people really going to want to give up all of the abilities of their jobs just for these new items? I can see in certain situations where people still use their classes rather than jobs benefiting from this (using THM for safety and flexibility, or tanking on GLA for example) but I think in the vast majority of cases the answer would be no. Anyone else concerned by this?

[EllyWren]

All darksteel armor is gld mrd
Heavy Darksteel Armor Full Plate Required Level: 49／Requires: GLA MRD

Yeah, that's what I said.

I just don't think anyone really expected the language "...for gladiator, pugilist, marauder, and lancer classes only" when we first got a preview would mean that the associated jobs would NOT be able to equip this stuff, until we saw the new patch notes. I just think this is going to make this stuff worth waaaaaay less than originally anticipated, given the trouble it will take to craft them and what will apparently be very limited usefulness. I wouldn't expect huge demand now.

[Green_and_a_Half]

unless its like +20 store tp +100 crit attack, ele+ damage, and a WS attacked to it lol