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    Player
    Iedarus's Avatar
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    Iedarus Meridus
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    Midgardsormr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I'm still trying to find a reason to use Dissipation, but maybe when I'm finally able to play the game I'll figure it out.
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    ThorneDynasty's Avatar
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    Gisela Thorne
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Iedarus View Post
    I'm still trying to find a reason to use Dissipation, but maybe when I'm finally able to play the game I'll figure it out.
    Same as always I assume, an emergency button when you run out of every other oGCD?
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    NobleWinter's Avatar
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    Winter Gem
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I stopped playing Astro in Stormblood aside from leveling it to 80 in ShB so the cast time reduction is really a struggle for me to adapt to. My muscle memory does not want to weave with Broil and it hurts.
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    Anhra Nefaris
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 90
    SCH is to me still the same Job as in ShB. Quality of Life changes shouldnt be something that should only be released during Expansion releases. And just changing the visuals of a Skill, can barely be called an Upgrade.

    Lets see what we got:
    - Seraph is still useless
    - Broilccoli, Art of Dabbing and Ruined 2 are still the same Skill
    - Fae Gauge is still overbloated with ressources.
    - Selene is still just a reskin of Eos
    - Despite being labeled a BARRIER Healer, SCH still has overwhelmingly generic Healing Magic instead of Skills that should work with Barriers in some way.
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    Brandedblade's Avatar
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    Gunther Frey
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Anhra View Post
    SCH is to me still the same Job as in ShB. Quality of Life changes shouldnt be something that should only be released during Expansion releases. And just changing the visuals of a Skill, can barely be called an Upgrade.

    Lets see what we got:
    - Seraph is still useless
    - Broilccoli, Art of Dabbing and Ruined 2 are still the same Skill
    - Fae Gauge is still overbloated with ressources.
    - Selene is still just a reskin of Eos
    - Despite being labeled a BARRIER Healer, SCH still has overwhelmingly generic Healing Magic instead of Skills that should work with Barriers in some way.
    -Wrong, I've found Seraph very useful from playing.
    -They're stronger potency wise and Broilccoli now has a 1.5 sec cast for weave.
    -I've had the opposite experience, I've use Fey Union constantly in EW compared to ShB
    -Still stronger and more responsive then it was in ShB
    -Barrier healer means they have access to on-demand (as in, near spammable) shield spells, not that they are the sole component of the gameplay. They still use Deploy and Emergency to interact with their shields, and their two new abilities both augment shields indirectly (one by giving you a means of buffing the healing output, which you can use in conjunction with deploy, and one that reduces the damage the target takes, thus making the shield last that much longer).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyarlha View Post
    In the end, every change, every design choice, is up to the devs. If they decided to go one way with an element of gameplay or a job, acting like they kicked your dog on the forums isn't going to change anything. At some point, you have to cut your losses or you're just wasting energy being so emotionnaly invested into something that won't change.

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    ToodlesElNoodles's Avatar
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    Hoatu Hotus
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    Brynhildr
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    Scholar Lv 100
    If you can cast 12 Broils without using fairy ability, then Dissipation would’ve been a good choice.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Having played a bit:

    Putting down Sacred Soil (-10% damage as well as a regen), Whispering Dawn, as well as Fey Union and tanks are still dropping.

    3 substantial Cooldowns and it's still not enough.

    To me, something seems wrong with that.
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Having played a bit:

    Putting down Sacred Soil (-10% damage as well as a regen), Whispering Dawn, as well as Fey Union and tanks are still dropping.

    3 substantial Cooldowns and it's still not enough.

    To me, something seems wrong with that.
    SCH always feels weak at the start of an expansion so that sounds about right. It just has to rely on its GCD heals at the start but once everyone starts gearing up a bit, the problem sorts itself out for the most part.
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    Tolo Rewd
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    Spriggan
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver-Strider View Post
    SCH always feels weak at the start of an expansion so that sounds about right. It just has to rely on its GCD heals at the start but once everyone starts gearing up a bit, the problem sorts itself out for the most part.
    I've only healed the first dungeon so far and I never had to use a GCD heal, nor did I feel weak. The dungeon has some weird damage spikes and sometimes the tanks are very low all of a sudden, but that's it.

    I had the same experience as SGE when I had to use multiple cooldowns (Taurochole, Kerachole, Physis II) and tanks were still dropping fast.
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by rewd View Post
    I've only healed the first dungeon so far and I never had to use a GCD heal, nor did I feel weak. The dungeon has some weird damage spikes and sometimes the tanks are very low all of a sudden, but that's it.

    I had the same experience as SGE when I had to use multiple cooldowns (Taurochole, Kerachole, Physis II) and tanks were still dropping fast.
    Well there isn't really an issue then. I mean, I've healed the 1st dungeon on my SCH and tanks were taking a bit more of a beating than they were in SB but I just chalked it up to the fairy being slightly weaker as per usual with each expansion. I did have to use the occasional Adlo due to people being new and taking some extra damage here and there but nothing I hadn't experienced before with people doing new content for the 1st time. It feels more or less the same from my experience.
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