New summoner is unacceptable

[Warpstone]

I'm enjoying the new summoner. I like it much better than before. But every one has their own opinion.

[Tanis_Ebonhart]

I mean, yeah... But all you can do is submit feedback and then either suck it up or play another Job.

[MagiusNecros]

MP management over long fights is going to be a valid concern I think.

[Rin_Kuroi]

I mean, yeah... But all you can do it submit feedback and then either suck it up or play another Job.

Sure. Submitting feedback is more of an elegant way to put it.

[Musai]

I've mained SMN since early in 2.0 and have seen various changes over time. This is the first time I hated it. It's not like it's been live long enough to give it much of a chance so I'm trying to give it time before making a final judgement. I spent nearly 2 hours trying to figure out where to put things on my bars and standing at target dummies. So many abilities feel dead. Half of them are just sitting waiting for something else before they can even be used.

Thankfully everyone isn't over-geared yet. When a lot of melee are around it can be hard to tag mobs without an instant cast ability that isn't tied behind a proc. It isn't so bad when it takes a while to get mobs down but once they go down faster, it may be hard to get the tags at least. As an example, end of xpac hunt trains can be brutal.

But I'm not going to fret over it yet. I may thoroughly enjoy the job once I learn the new playstyle. But my first impression was that I hated it. I actually shed a couple of tears. lol But to be honest, I also had a raging headache and low sleep.

And now when I left the room to try to get rid of said headache, I got server kicked and found my way here just because of the server taking so long to let me back in. I would much rather be giving my summoner a chance than be here talking about it. o/

[Escalon]

I main SMN/SCH since 2.0 and for once I kinda like the changes, the style and flow feels kinda nice to me.
What I am not happy about is how much "dumber" the class is now. The Memes about the 2 Min opener were kinda right, but at least you got rewarded for pulling it off.
Now I feel like Im on a different type of BLM :C

[Deceptus]

I love it.

The only thing it's missing IMHO is an instant cast, low potency attack for movement.

Also the value of using the egis in single target. I'm sure I'm missing something but they're like 140 potency vs Ruins 300 potency.

[MagiusNecros]

I love it.

The only thing it's missing IMHO is an instant cast, low potency attack for movement.

So 90% of it's kit?

[aveyond-dreams]

Unacceptable? You know what was actually unacceptable? The disaster of a job we got in 5.0.

Today is the most fun I've ever had with Summoner, and doubtless the overwhelming majority of people feel the same. If I had not gone on to the forums to ask a question about something else entirely I would have missed this kind of complaining. Goodness. The happy people right now are by and large silent because we're all enjoying the game (provided we can log in). Why is it always the forums trying to ruin everyone's mood?

Regardless, the internal metrics will speak for themselves. For every person that went on here to complain there are 100+ people that went out to try out/boost/start the EW MSQ as Summoner because of these changes.

[Navnav]

Unacceptable? You know what was actually unacceptable? The disaster of a job we got in 5.0.

Today is the most fun I've ever had with Summoner, and doubtless the overwhelming majority of people feel the same. If I had not gone on to the forums to ask a question about something else entirely I would have missed this kind of complaining. Goodness. The happy people right now are by and large silent because we're all enjoying the game (provided we can log in). Why is it always the forums trying to ruin everyone's mood?

Regardless, the internal metrics will speak for themselves. For every person that went on here to complain there are 100+ people that went out to try out/boost/start the EW MSQ as Summoner because of these changes.

FACTS. The forum is an echo chamber of try hards most of the time. Because obviously to the whiners here, anything someone else doesn't like, must mean it is too difficult for them, therefore I am pro gamer because i like it.

The amount of whine about Monk and Summoner has been outlandish. Especially because as you said, most people are actually enjoying it and aint got time to forum post. This is just the truth.