New summoner is unacceptable

[SeverianLyonesse]

Well, the phys ranged tax is real LOL. Also notice how the skill floor-ceiling gap is the smallest on SMN.

Let's slide BRD down a smidge...DRG and SMN up a bit...and make a second mid-range Blitzer with Scouting gear to sit next to NIN. Perfection.

Oh also someone give DNC a hand.

[kejakalope]

Well, the phys ranged tax is real LOL. Also notice how the skill floor-ceiling gap is the smallest on SMN.

Do you have a source for that or more information on it?

[Skiros]

Do you have a source for that or more information on it?

https://twitter.com/h1dla/status/147...pMwAKHJmw&s=19

Also this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxivdiscussion/comments/rg1rv1/job_performance_in_extremes_over_the_last_week/

[RocciaSolida]

I'm confident in the fact that in the next few months more and more people will grow tired of this job and finally realize how shallow it is

[Roda]

Maybe its just me, but i feel like maybe level 30 is the place where a job should feel like a "base to be built on" and not level 90....

[kejakalope]

I like the new SMN design a lot better than the old one but it does feel like it wants some more frequent OGCDs to press. Right now it kinda feels like clubbing the enemy to death with a variety of elementally-flavored rocks.

[RyuDragnier]

I like the new SMN design a lot better than the old one but it does feel like it wants some more frequent OGCDs to press. Right now it kinda feels like clubbing the enemy to death with a variety of elementally-flavored rocks.

Level 86 with Titan out fixes that. You get an oGCD you can use after every Ruin.

[rewd]

Well, the phys ranged tax is real LOL. Also notice how the skill floor-ceiling gap is the smallest on SMN.

But I was told SMN had room for crazy optimization...

So we got a boring, unrewarding AND weak job. Nice.

[Vahlnir]

But I was told SMN had room for crazy optimization...

So we got a boring, unrewarding AND weak job. Nice.

There will likely be some potency adjustments after the new raid releases, as there always is. If SMN is in a bit of a bad place now damage wise, hopefully it won't stay there.

[Skiros]

But I was told SMN had room for crazy optimization...

So we got a boring, unrewarding AND weak job. Nice.

The vast majority of people who think that SMN had room for crazy optimization likely weren't even passable players to begin with.

The current optimization paradigm for summoner mostly comes from SpS tiering, and that is not what most of the people who argued that SMN will be complex mentioned. Choosing which primal to summon in order to move and hardcast successfully is barely an optimization - that is something you should pick up after literally two or three pulls.