New summoner is unacceptable

[Dyvid]

You're already 90 and know how it plays?

Nothing changes at 90, just upgrade to current skills. 82 upgrades current Single Target and AoE attack, 86 adds a Deathflare type attack, and 90 upgrades Egis to Primals. It's watered down and very basic.

You're just making me want to play Summoner.

Please do. I want everyone who says they love the change to drop their current job and play SMN.

[zcrash970]

You're already 90 and know how it plays?

Yes, yes I do and I'm already bored of it. I feel like there's nothing more to it. Once you get the lvl86 trait, that's it. The job doesn't evolve anymore and trait doesn't really add much.

The job is just poorly designed

[Vulture]

You're just making me want to play Summoner.

[Komarimono]

This actually sounds like an awesome change. No more playing dance dance revolution with my fingertips, and if screw up one tiny thing, DPS drops drastically as whole rotation is fubar'd

[Sinavie]

As a Sprout who just started this Nov 5th, I often wondered why SMN was so different from any SMN in the FF lore. I wondered why as an Arcanist, why an Arcanist wasn't a Job in itself where poison is the main role as a dps caster. I liked playing as an Arcanist, applying dots. But that's not being a SMN. Those abilities shouldn't even exist on SMN. SMN should just use their summons. I am hopeful that I get that chance to as I level up more.

And dare I ask for a future skill tree for my Egis, like the one my chocobo has?

[Unaki]

As a Sprout who just started this Nov 5th, I often wondered why SMN was so different from any SMN in the FF lore. I wondered why as an Arcanist, why an Arcanist wasn't a Job in itself where poison is the main role as a dps caster. I liked playing as an Arcanist, applying dots. But that's not being a SMN. Those abilities shouldn't even exist on SMN. SMN should just use their summons. I am hopeful that I get that chance to as I level up more.

And dare I ask for a future skill tree for my Egis, like the one my chocobo has?

If you want a SMN that's actually a SMN and not a poisonbot with a pet that sits there and occassionally sneezes then you're better off going to FF11.

[Hoodcat]

there a lemongrab meme burried in here somewhere? I wana be original and not read all this "we hate change" stuff.

[aveyond-dreams]

Precisely that. There's no problem with having a dot caster but that caster should not have taken over Summoner. Necromancer, Time Mage, Shaman, Geomancer-all these jobs would have been so much better for a dot caster and the poison mages would have largely been content. Instead now we have to listen to them lament over the loss of a job that should not have been handed over to them in the first place.

[Riusvell]

It's not about it being a DoT caster at the moment.
It's about the class simply being UNFINISHED.
If it plays like a level 60 at 80 and above, something has gone terribly wrong in the design process.

Like I'm leaving my other grievances out because clearly people hone in on the DoTs and shininess of the job because it's brand new with sparkles while smelling like a brand new car that has actually problems with it's engine and other compartments.

It's lack luster, barebones and rushed.
And if you're going to excuse that, fine. I'm not.