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    Tabmow's Avatar
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    Myamoto Musashi
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    Ravana
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    Arcanist Lv 91

    Level 70 Sage rotation?

    So whats a good level 70 rotation? im kinda confused atm
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    Laethoran Arventi
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    Just like you, no one else has any idea.

    It's 70, wing it until you're 90 and then care about your toolkit.
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    Noel Aranea
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    Dancer Lv 90
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    as dumb as it sounds

    eurkrasis- Edosis-dosis until you need to refresh Edosis for your gcd loop. Sprinkle in your ogcds whenever
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    Esther Harper
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    Scholar Lv 90
    And keep your Phlegma charges running in addition to keeping dot up and spamming Dosis, it's a dps gain both single and multi target but melee ranged
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    Yesunova Hotgo
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    Balmung
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    Sage Lv 90
    I think it'll depend on single or multiple targets.

    Single Target:
    Eukrasia Dosis and refresh when it's about to run out
    Dosis in between everything else (and spam it)
    Phelgma whenever you can
    Toxicon when you have it up and need to move (if you don't need to move then you're better off with Dosis)

    Multiple Target
    Eukrasia Dosis and refresh when it's about to run out
    Dyscrasia in between everything else (and spam it)
    Phelgma whenever you can
    Toxicon when you have it up

    And to get Toxicon up, in the short time I've been able to get away with playing (I am a work), I've been making it a habit of eating AoE with Eukrasian Diagnosis up, which has been fine for doing FATE so far, the damage is nothing and it's more Toxicons. It makes me wonder how I might purposefully eat AoEs playing Sage if I'm not expect anybody to take damage or whether it'll be a DPS gain or loss.
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    Visanis Mitsuna
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    The best rotation is doing a 180 and picking a class that has more depth than a drop of water.
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    Pocket Prince
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    Famfrit
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    White Mage Lv 57
    Quote Originally Posted by Visanis View Post
    The best rotation is doing a 180 and picking a class that has more depth than a drop of water.
    So all healers are out. And the tanks, maybe GNB?
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    Jade Drax
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    Sargatanas
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Saefinn View Post
    I think it'll depend on single or multiple targets.

    Single Target:
    Eukrasia Dosis and refresh when it's about to run out
    Dosis in between everything else (and spam it)
    Phelgma whenever you can
    Toxikon when you have it up and need to move (if you don't need to move then you're better off with Dosis)

    Multiple Target
    Eukrasia Dosis and refresh when it's about to run out
    Dyscrasia in between everything else (and spam it)
    Phelgma whenever you can
    Toxicon when you have it up

    And to get Toxicon up, in the short time I've been able to get away with playing (I am a work), I've been making it a habit of eating AoE with Eukrasian Diagnosis up, which has been fine for doing FATE so far, the damage is nothing and it's more Toxicons. It makes me wonder how I might purposefully eat AoEs playing Sage if I'm not expect anybody to take damage or whether it'll be a DPS gain or loss.
    Toxikon has the same effect that Dosis has on single target, and it is just plain better on multi-target. Eukrasian Diagnosis is going to break on the Tank a lot. So much so that you will rarely have time to hardcast a Dosis. Phlegma is alo better than hardcast Dosis as well. It is hard to even consistently keep up Eukrasian Dosis with Eukrasian Diagnosis can break so often. You have to take some time to cast Eukrasia before getting off a shield too. Honestly, I kinda feel Eukrasia is a bottleneck that could easily cause serious mistakes. It reminds me a lot of the old Dark Knight Dark Magic spam issues. A lot of SGE gameplay relies so much on Eukrasia that you won't be hardcasting a lot.

    This all means that a SGE rotation looks more like this (regardless of amount of targets), by proc:

    1) Toxikon
    2) Phlegma
    3) Eukrasian Dosis (if you can)
    4) (hardcast) Dosis / Dyskrasia (if the tank is not taking serious damage)

    This will only change when you are leveling and you have some upgraded spells but not others.

    SGE DPS is like WHM but backwards. WHM builds up to instant cast spells from hardcast spells and SGE does the reverse. Also, Dyskrasia feels only slightly better to use than Art of War, and only because of Kardian. You also have so much movement because of Toxikon that if you don't have room for Icarus on your bars you shouldn't feel bad not using it. I also hope that Eukrasian Dosis splits off into its own spell in the future. It feels pretty awkward to consistantly keep up compared to the other healers because you have to use Eukrasia first. I find that Eukrasian Diagnosis breaks by the time I want to refresh it and, therefore, I don't because the tank suffers a lot if I pick Eukrasian Dosis over Eukrasian Diagnosis at that point. And than, because it broke, my next GCD usually becomes Toxikon if there are any number of adds.

    (I may be off on some information, but that's how I took in SGE DPS this morning.)
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    Last edited by Superskull85; 12-04-2021 at 11:31 AM.

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    Lunafreya's Avatar
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    Ellia Lombardia
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    Lamia
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Wish I can tell you but I'm still in q. RIP
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