Endwalker Main Scenario Commentary & Feedback

[KizuyaKatogami]

Yeah, I didn't expect that we would have to

kill god. And honestly I think far more people were reaching for it rather than just expecting it. Lots of people kept trying to find justifications for how Hydaelyn was really evil, we were really tempered, the Ascians were right, on and on. I don't mind that we fought her, and it was fitting, though I think that is more due to the fact it fits the way they've done the game so far, I could easily conceive of a version of the story where Hydaelyn just accepts us for all she has seen us do. I'm really glad though that they managed to make Hydaelyn good until the end, would have ended XIV badly if they hadn't.

I don’t really understand this.

I don’t see how Hydaelyn is really deemed as good? The story tries its damndest to make it seem that way yes, but given everything we are told and shown, she seems pretty oof to me. Sundered the world, didn’t say anything to anyone, kept secrets told lies etc. Her/Venat could’ve avoided this entire mess and instead chose to keep secrets because what? People needed to learn about suffering? Give me a break lol.

[EdwinLi]

I don’t really understand this.

I don’t see how Hydaelyn is really deemed as good? The story tries its damndest to make it seem that way yes, but given everything we are told and shown, she seems pretty oof to me. Sundered the world, didn’t say anything to anyone, kept secrets told lies etc. Her/Venat could’ve avoided this entire mess and instead chose to keep secrets because what? People needed to learn about suffering? Give me a break lol.

It a bit more complicated than that....

It was not about learning about suffering but to not run away from it. To face suffering and defeat the experience of suffering by creating hope.

The old world ruled by Amauret was built on the concept that they ran away from suffering instead of facing it by erasing anything they deemed unnecessary from existence.

They never valued the life of other beings because for them they can bring suffering to their "perfect" world. So those beings are erased because they are deemed "flawed".

A side quest in Elpis mentions this and it gives a bit into the mindset of people in Amauret. They basically erased anything they deemed flawed and things that can cause suffering is among them. Being "perfect" was their ideal life to a point most mock the concept of mating to have offsprings carry genes from both parents (which means Amauret's people method of creating children is different) simply because why bother with that when they can create the perfect genetic children to remove the risk of genetic defects.

When the final days came and they could not "erase" the source of their own suffering they became consumed by it. They did not try to defeat the suffering they inflicted on themselves but tried to run away to a point they were willing to create a society that depends on allowing other life to suffer so they don't have to suffer.


As for Venat choosing to lie, it is most likely to prevent events of the future from changing so that this WoL will live. She knew everything that will happen in the future due to not losing her memories and knows the only hope to defeat the Final Days is the WoL that she met on that day in Elpis. However, she did not know when the WoL will be born and when is that moment in his/her time frame. So she waited and guarded the secret of WoL being from the future to prevent those who serving Zodiark from attempting to endanger his/her life before that day happened.