Quote Originally Posted by Slatersev View Post
That's not true.
Minfillia didn't really die till near the end of Shadowbringers. Even when they flashback to her end its the scene where she talks to Ryne before passing on. Her presence is an absolutely massive part of ShB


And frankly while it was still technically a HW patch, the HW plotline was done by the time
Papalymo died, his death is the starting point of Stormblood far more then it is anything HW.
I disagree on this.
Minfilia was basically dead after ARR. All she was after that really was Hydaelyn’s meat puppet. As for Papalymo it really was still the HW patches, so it was still HW. The fact we haven’t had a major protagonist character death like that is sad and just seems like the writers are trying to cater to the community which seems like they can’t handle or cope with fictional death. In shadowbringers we fight two almost god-like beings and do so with 0 consequences. Despite the scions being on a ticking time bomb nothing ever comes from that, they’re perfectly fine. And now in Endwalker, the apocalypse that originally destroyed the planet that not even the godlike ancients could escape from, somehow the scions do so perfectly fine with 0 consequences or death. It’s honestly ridiculous, especially when you realize just how small of a presence some characters had. Like what exactly did Yshtola do this expansion of note?