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Assume full MSQ spoilers. 3/3



Scions:
Contrast this with the Scion's plot armor, likely why I have to keep watching my Ancient friends die because the writers/devs won't touch the protagonists. The reason they keep having to bring up losses of characters introduced in ARR is because no major character on the side of the protagonists has died since HW. Having our group discuss overcoming despair when comparatively they've lost the least of any of the peoples we help or fight against rang hollow. The only exceptions are G'raha and Estinien. It's not that I wanted Scions to die (though I'd easily trade over half of them for Emet and Hythlodaeus), but they always win and without having to incur much in the way of costs. Maybe this contributes to why I feel like the Ancients have a more compelling story and characters. As a comment on Reddit said, "I adore their story more than our story."
That's not true.
Minfillia didn't really die till near the end of Shadowbringers. Even when they flashback to her end its the scene where she talks to Ryne before passing on. Her presence is an absolutely massive part of ShB


And frankly while it was still technically a HW patch, the HW plotline was done by the time
Papalymo died, his death is the starting point of Stormblood far more then it is anything HW.