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    Quote Originally Posted by Loggos View Post
    And that doesn't even address people who have not played Crystal Tower (e.g., newer players who until now might not have been interested in doing lvl 50 content).
    Crystal Tower hasn't been optional since 5.0. They added it as a requirement for Shadowbringers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacae View Post
    Crystal Tower hasn't been optional since 5.0. They added it as a requirement for Shadowbringers.
    Oh, I see! My bad, I wasn't aware of this.

    (Although I still would have loved some kind of convenient "recap" of the CT events because they did the same with the important ShB plotpoints, with characters nicely summarising everything in a conversation. It wouldn't even have to be a cutscene. If it were just said book in the sunstone that someone forgot on the table and that retells the most important CT points that would have been great, haha.)
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    Qt Melon
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    Oh I want to say something about the Trust system

    I have not done the trial yet with them, but the Elpis dungeon with our Ancient Trio was a hoot. Emet and Hyth are total cheats with their teleportation, but Venat being the mentor she is actually shows you how to deal with mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QT_Melon View Post
    Oh I want to say something about the Trust system

    I have not done the trial yet with them, but the Elpis dungeon with our Ancient Trio was a hoot. Emet and Hyth are total cheats with their teleportation, but Venat being the mentor she is actually shows you how to deal with mechanics.
    Emet-selch is a terrible tank though. Many times I had to check that he had grit on, he did, but every pull he lost all enmity instantly to Hythlodaeus... dunno if it's a lore thing or...
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    Quote Originally Posted by yajnaji View Post
    Emet-selch is a terrible tank though. Many times I had to check that he had grit on, he did, but every pull he lost all enmity instantly to Hythlodaeus... dunno if it's a lore thing or...
    Sounds like good ol' Bard to me Since they took away Quelling Strikes. That and I believe it's because he was doing AOE and Emet didn't have hate on all of them just yet.

    Also Venat was not above doing DPS as a healer.
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    Last edited by QT_Melon; 12-09-2021 at 07:47 AM.

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    Well finished it. A very fulfilling ending.

    Venat's scene in Amaurot with Answers playing was my favorite part of the expansion. So good.

    Getting my only real disappointment out of the way because I don't like dwelling on the negative: the lack of Shadowbringers characters. I know most are stuck on another world but Azem's crystal could have summoned Ryne in the climax, and I wish Ardbert had even gotten just one cutscene talking to us in our mindscape.

    I wasn't as emotionally invested in Meteion as a villain as I was Emet-Selch or Elidibus, nor Ultima Thule as a final area as much as Amaurot, but I did really like how the conflict she instigated embodied the themes of forging hope despite hardships and such that the game has pretty much always been about since at least ARR. In that sense she was similar to Necron from FF9 in the way both of them embody an abstract concept that is the main theme of the game that the other villains have fought futilely against and the heroes persevere despite the odds, though she at least was set up quite a while before literally the final boss with her like Necron was.

    Also THANK GOD the cause of the Final Days wasn't some ancient alien in the core of the planet like tons of people were suggesting the last two years. I always hated that suggestion and would have hated if it was what they went with. For a chunk of Elpis I was dreading that the Meteions were going to accidentally like, call in an alien invasion from Jenova expies or something.

    On the other end of Endwalker vs Shadowbringers, I feel like Endwalker didn't have ShB's lows either. Il Mheg and the talos/miners part of Amh Araeng absolutely dragged, but in Endwalker there was never a low point where I just wanted the part of the story I was in to move on already. I was on a high from beginning to end.

    I wish Garlemald had gotten more time in the spotlight than it did, though I liked what there was and I imagine it will have more screentime in the patches as we deal with the aftermath and what to do with the Garleans going forward.

    Even as someone who absolutely hates Zenos and always has, that final fight with him was extremely hype, especially playing a reaper just like him.

    Corvos getting mentioned constantly during the MSQ means it is absolutely going to be part of some questline somewhere. Trials or relic weapons or something.

    Endwalker was a great ending for the story and I'm eager to start our next chapter.
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    Last edited by JeanneOrnitier; 12-09-2021 at 03:42 PM.

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    As an aside, it's really odd that Tataru's airship from 5.4 never showed up. From the way she spoke about it it seemed for sure like that was being set up as the Scions' base for EW, and her new outfit even kind of looks like an airship pilot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier View Post
    As an aside, it's really odd that Tataru's airship from 5.4 never showed up. From the way she spoke about it it seemed for sure like that was being set up as the Scions' base for EW, and her new outfit even kind of looks like an airship pilot.

    I suppose with the distances involved, the fuel issues mentioned as the reason for establishing
    Seiryu's Wall in the Burn
    would have entered into the equation.
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    On Emet and friend...

    Emet and Hythlodaeus Ever the charmers, they literally brought flowers to bring a girl to her knees!

    Also Emet looks like Ansem of KH whiich is funnier since a lot of first impressions of the Ascians were that they were KH rejects when this game first started (2.0 for many people)
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    I'm almost at the end but there's this one quest I'm so frustrated with.

    Sage Council is one of the worst quest in recent memory. I know alot of unnecessary quests that are part of MSQ but this one easily takes it. Not only do you have to look for 8 people aimlessly in a huge area, but ALOT of the NPCs that are marked are not the ones you should be looking for. Easily wasted 15 minutes on this quest. And this is after coming back from Elpis and finally finding a solution to get to the source of the Final Days. I just want to go and talk to Hydaelyn dammit!!
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