Thread: Monk Positionals 6.0

Originally Posted by ssunny2008

Good SE is catering to guys like you, who "are so glad about the changes", that they still don´t give af about maining MNK at all. Really, stop talking.

Are you me? Can you talk about me or about how I play the game? No... I level one of each role. What is the problem?
The real problem is people like you, trying to tell players like me I am a problem for you, yet I don't make changes to the game. I tell you what? How about you just ignore my posts then. If the fact I like the changes and you don't triggers you so much, why not just simply scroll on by me.

Originally Posted by Navnav

Are you me? Can you talk about me or about how I play the game? No... I level one of each role. What is the problem?
The real problem is people like you, trying to tell players like me I am a problem for you, yet I don't make changes to the game. I tell you what? How about you just ignore my posts then. If the fact I like the changes and you don't triggers you so much, why not just simply scroll on by me.

Navnav....do yourself a favor....just ignore it. I have given up fight with this person, because some people just don't want to be happy. Some people just tend to be very pessimistic for argument sake. I have been on the receiving from this person MANY times. Called a casual, a smooth brain, the main problem, the worst part of what's happening to this game, catering to homogenization, dumbing the game down, etc, etc.

From my point of view. This person would rather MNK be completely exclusive for some sort of self fulfilling entitlement to hold over all the casuals to say, "You will never be as good as me!".

Sad truth is. The changes have already happened, and yet they STILL keep the rose tinted glasses on. I have been told NUMEROUS times to just find a different class to play or just stop trying to make MNK what you think it should be.

I am looking forward for the job from here on out. And I for one am happy MNK is ultimately a compromise. You still have postionals, you still have fast attack speed, you still have high crit.

Some people just don't like change....even if they can't see that shakes things up for the better.

Originally Posted by Sqwall

I am looking forward for the job from here on out. And I for one am happy MNK is ultimately a compromise. You still have postionals, you still have fast attack speed, you still have high crit.

Some people just don't like change....even if they can't see that shakes things up for the better.

It would´ve been a compromiss with 4 positionals left. Not those 2 which are used at the least anyway.

And nobody would complain about Blitz if we still had all positionals left. But they got ride of it for a worse Mudra.

Originally Posted by Sqwall

I have been told NUMEROUS times to just find a different class to play

Yes and you always had the chance to play classes with less positionals and some engaging gameplay. Instead you wanted MNK´s gameplay to cater yourself, just because you like the visuals and not it´s own coregameplay which have been about positionals for years especially in ShB without anything left but positionals.

Me and other old MNK mains can´t just jump on another class with a fast positional gameplay. There is none left. If anything we can play NIN because it´s actually MNK with more depth and oGCD´s.

Originally Posted by ssunny2008

Me and other old MNK mains can´t just jump on another class with a fast positional gameplay. There is none left. If anything we can play NIN because it´s actually MNK with more depth and oGCD´s.

Hmm. Well I've got a suggestion then...

Originally Posted by Navnav

Hmm. Well I've got a suggestion then...

And why was that not an option for you before the Monk changes?

The vast majority of the complaints come from the fact that too much was taken away. Sure, you wanted positionals removed, we did not. What you do then is take, some away, not all, not loads, just a little and see what the reaction is. I was perfectly fine losing positionals on just Raptor Form just to see how it would go. You then take them away from Opo-opo as well and you haven't just taken away a small number, you have taken away loads.

It is the same with oGCDs. Monk had Shoulder Tackle, Elixir Field and Tornado Kick to help fill in the empty gaps, now it just has the massively inconsistent Forbidden Chakra. That are vast periods in fights where you literally just do your GCD combo. Having something on a 20-30 second cooldown would go a long way to not make the job feel as empty in those downtimes.

This is why there is such a massive backlash from the people who use Monk. Ok, if you want to experiment with some small changes, that is fine, just do not completely neuter the job from the get go. It needs the small changes to know how it should shift and not the massive changes it got.

Originally Posted by Navnav

If the fact I like the changes and you don't triggers you so much, why not just simply scroll on by me.

If the fact that many others here don't like the changes triggers you so much, why not simply scroll on by them?

If you don't like getting flak over your opinions, fam, no cap, don't post on a forum.

Originally Posted by ssunny2008

If anything we can play NIN because it´s actually MNK with more depth and oGCD´s.

I can give NIN a recommendation for any ex MNK mains. Been enjoying EW NIN far more than EW MNK. Lots of neat tools and things to do.

Guys you can't disregard MNK issue by "people are never happy", that's not a "strong" mentality here.
You didn't like positionals ? Ok, bring something that balance the lose of oGCD and Positionals, don't come up with "we got blitz"...
I like positionals, i don't care if they goes away BUT again bring something on the table, which they haven't accomplish...

You can't came here like "we started at ShB MNK was good and now it's better" disregarding people who have been playing MNK for years at a realm reborn...
Actually MNK feel lackluster, that's the truth especially for those who have been here before ShB.

I feel like they could add in Assassin to bridge the gap between monk, nin, and drg so everyone could have a class they like.