Thread: Monk Positionals 6.0

Originally Posted by Monk101

This is what I found as well. Essentially Monk will alternate between a larger burst and a smaller burst every 60s which is fine. It feels a little strange that Tornado kick/Phantom Rush will never align with Brotherhood but the damage increase isn’t that much anyway.
I think Masterful Blitz itself is a good addition to the Monk kit. I was actually very excited when I saw this on the live letter. However, it doesn’t justify removing any positional and oGCD. This is worsened by the fact that RoE is rendered virtually redundant and RoW has a weird 90s CD, which means it will only align with RoF once every 3 RoF. I understand this might be done to spread the damage out but I don’t think this is the right approach. Messing around with Samurai made me realised how incomplete the current and even the Shb Monk kit is. It almost feels like SE didn’t have enough time to finish the monk design. EW certainly made it even worse though. At the current state, I doubt any new monk player will stick with Monk for long, knowing that Monk lost its job defining feature and has pretty much stagnant job progression after level 60. I will very likely move on to more complete melee jobs like Samurai if SE don’t revert the change to positionals.

Monk definitely seems to pop off in dungeon AoE if able to use both Phantom/Nado and Lunar Blitz within the same PB window.

Though, until level 90 that honestly seems to have as much to do with the number of Shadows of the Destroyer you can get off under RoF and BroH as the Blitzes themselves...

I do wish the Formless Fist came from your last PB charge spent rather than from the Blitz, though.

After looking through Reaper more at lvl 90.
Plentiful Harvest gives 50 Shroud Gauge which means you can enshroud no matter what every 120s with your dps CD.

Why doesn't Brotherhood reset Perfect Balance for MNK at least?

It's kinda sad because my heart is still with MNK and I keep being drawn back to it, but Reaper is so much better designed and feels much smoother to play.
Even if I do find Reaper a bit too simple too.

At the end of the day, square deemed positionals as something not required for the monk moving forward. Amazing how i made the EXACT change months ago on the forum detailing why, and get blasted, but the game deigners actually saw the sense in such a change themselves so implemented it (not based off me obviously). Yet we still have know it alls saying i'm trolling... Take your anger out on square. I find it bizzare they made the EXACT change I suggested, but great minds and all that.

From here they can actually make something complex, but without the outdated positional gameplay.

Originally Posted by Navnav

At the end of the day, square deemed positionals as something not required for the monk moving forward. Amazing how i made the EXACT change months ago on the forum detailing why, and get blasted, but the game deigners actually saw the sense in such a change themselves so implemented it (not based off me obviously). Yet we still have know it alls saying i'm trolling... Take your anger out on square. I find it bizzare they made the EXACT change I suggested, but great minds and all that.

From here they can actually make something complex, but without the outdated positional gameplay.

EXACT change yeah? How was it with demolish and SP instead of BS and DK?
So you dont even remember what you wanted?

I can really live with the fact of being an unpopular asshole. But that you still believe your controversy claims have any meaning and that you're not a troll is beyond me.

Originally Posted by Navnav

I been saying that for a long time too, that they need to remove the positionals in favour of better mechanics to keep the job engaging. They are definitely on the right track. Crazy how devs can see obvious changes and make them, but you guys till whine on.

Except it was a minority opinion, judging by the Likes in response to the previous thread relative to those disagreeing with you, back then as well.

It's not an "obvious" change. It's an awkward and controversial one. If they wanted to make positionals less irritating, they'd merely need a leniency system. Having both positionals on the same form, even if needing to move only twice per Demolish, still carries half of the same problems as earlier. We can both have more to do and not be screwed over in more frenetic situations, it just requires a less lackluster solution than merely stripping out two-thirds of the positionals.

Originally Posted by Navnav

I remember what I said, but lets face facts, they removed four positionals. I did say four positionals. End of. I been saying that for a long time too, that they need to remove the positionals in favour of better mechanics to keep the job engaging. They are definitely on the right track. Crazy how devs can see obvious changes and make them, but you guys still whine on.

Still though, I don't think anything will change for you guys, they will only add to this. Not be sound rude or anything, but it is time to accept it or move on unfortunately. I get it sucks, but it is the reality.

BTW I'm not trolling. Just happy with the change. How cme you guys can have your opinion, but mines gets blasted. Not that I care, but you gotta keep that energy for square. I didn't make the change.

Backing you entirely on this, I genuinely feel for those of you who feel that this change is a negative I know how awful it is when a class you love gets destroyed, I was all in on Ninja, in fact it was the only job I played then Shadowbringers destroyed it for me so I changed to Monk, fortunately for me I like these new Monk changes overall (of course they could be better) but it seems like you are only allowed to voice your opinion on here if you hate everything