Thread: Monk Positionals 6.0

You don't know if we are minority here like you said.
If i take your logic we are majority HERE...

Monk was far more difficult from all previous expansion, but never was necessary the removals of those.
Again to remove positional is not JUSTIFY ! Especially when others job have MORE positionals than us now... In terms of difficulty NIN for example is far more difficult than Monk and still people playing it...
From the very beginning positionals never was the problems of "why people do not play Monk..." !

You guys really need to stop replying to someone who is obviously baiting, doesn't know the topic they're arguing about, or not arguing in good faith. As someone who does QA for a living, the endless white noise caused by it or similar arguments/issues is why actual feedback never gets through.

Originally Posted by Grimmochov

You guys really need to stop replying to someone who is obviously baiting, doesn't know the topic they're arguing about, or not arguing in good faith. As someone who does QA for a living, the endless white noise caused by it or similar arguments/issues is why actual feedback never gets through.

SE doesn´t seem to care anyway. It´s always the same ppl... Just look into the past.

The same 3 ppl have been like "GL sucks, remove it pls.", so it got removed. Then the same 3 ppl opened like 5 threads within a month after 5.3 "Positionals on MNK suck, pls remove them!"

Given to tanks, MCH or healers feedbacks too, SE just don´t care. It´s more like they open the forums "Oh we just changed MNK, but 5 new topics about positionals, hmmm let´s get ride of them!"
It´s not like they just need to open them and count some thumbs ups. From all the ppl who actually care about the topic, an outnumbered majority want that 6 positionals on MNK to stay. If we take the overall majority into account, then the most just don´t care or can accept, that the 1 out of 19 classes is not made for them and let other players enjoy it as it´s given.

Personally, I am indifferent about the positional change although it feels little unnecessary. The skills had been tied to positionals for so long that I find myself constantly trying to get the positionals although there is no requirements anymore.

The way I see it I guess it is a matter of taste. Some people like the change (I do also like the fact they removed positionals on bootshine), some people don't. Functionally they are the same but it did dumb down the class a little. I feel like the loss in "extra work" by not having to do positional is offset somewhat by trying to optimize the use of PB and beast chakra finisher due to the finisher providing formless fist, and does not feel like the rotation line up with CDs as well as it did in ShB.

I don't like the blitz system and lack of ogcds but I'd put up with that if we still had positionals. I really loved the back and forth flow of the 5.4 rotation - I could do it all day and I frequently did, running mentor roulette for hours on monk.

Monk was the only class I wanted to play and now I'm considering not even leveling it. Please put the positionals back on dragonkick/bootshine.

The way Vivix phrased it makes it sound like they're talking about people who approve of the removed positionals who have played MNK for a long time.

I don't think that's what Vivix meant but I found it confusing too.
That's what '' current iteration '' made me think at first.

MNK still feels barren probably more so with the absence of positional. Blitz system isn’t …i don’t wanna say bad but doesn’t feel rewarding or fun to use.

It changed PB into SAMs Meikyo Shisui almost word for word. Which is always a bad thing due to job homogenization. Works for SAM because the attack is satisfying and the attacks themselves require Positionals to generate kenki to weave into it. Doesn’t work for MNK because that’s all you do and most of the time end up doing the same rotation you’d be doing normally. If you use PB and have twin and demo and ledan fist on you literally just be doing 1-2-3 normally. And MNK only Gcd is incredibly random it works with the chaos of dragon+boot from SHB but just comes off as arbitrary does get better with a trait tho.Also hate that none of the buffs align, Wind is 90s Fire is 60s and Brotherhood is 120s which comes off as awkward and abit ridiculous it has 3 damage buffs like this.

I haven’t fully digested MNK but do it’s it’s utter lack of evolutionary skills (pretty sure a big chunk of 50+ is just baseless upgrades or buffs which is a running trend for reworks for whatever reason) pretty sure the only thing I’m missing is the Chakra generator trait, but I’m not too happy about the changes and this awkward as hell system. The job is way less fierce and more generic.