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  1. #1
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    ssunny2008's Avatar
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    Micela Arzur
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    Shiva
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ElHeggunte View Post
    I'm still trying to wrap my head around why people complaining don't just... move?
    Move for what? Using TN for what? Or RoE which is nothing but a useless def now?!

    Of course we can go left / right, but there is no feedback, nothing which is like "Oh you did better than last time!", nothing to play around since you can´t even do it. It´s pointless.
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Pretend mechanics doesn't matter and it's not how game design works.
    Just on a psychological level too it's not how people work, things need to feel like they matter.

    Not to mention that part of it is minimizing movement, just like how BLM does.
    It's part of the gameplay and what makes it interesting and engaging.
    If they made all BLM casts insta casts and you told them to '' just stand still and pretend '', I mean you don't see how absurd that is?

    Using Riddle of Earth and True North correctly and maximizing your movement is part of the fun, and it was real.
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 12-04-2021 at 01:04 PM.

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    Iruma Ceceyigen
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    Cactuar
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    Pretend mechanics doesn't matter and it's not how game design works.
    Just on a psychological level too it's not how people work, things need to feel like they matter.

    Not to mention that part of it is minimizing movement, just like how BLM does.
    It's part of the gameplay and what makes it interesting and engaging.
    If they made all BLM casts insta casts and you told them to '' just stand still and pretend '', I mean you don't see how absurd that is?

    Using Riddle of Earth and True North correctly and maximizing your movement is part of the fun, and it was real.
    Better watch out, someone who boosted monk might hop in to tell you about how much APM they get out of (insert ranged physical job here) as if it's the very same thing as playing monk optimally prior to Endwalker.
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    Zenobia Septimia
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    Jenova
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    Monk Lv 80
    I had no idea having to unlearn positionals would feel this bad. Im not even done with ShB, on post msq (16 quests left). I miss Elixir field ogcd a lot more than I probably should, especially out of combat to avoid the cringe fall damage animation or just to see my character Kamehameha while run jumping in town like a boss. After 1-80 playing the job, I kind of want to swap to something else but it feels like its too late. I decided Monk was my main at level 74 (had PLD side by side leveling but had to choose unless I wanted to grind) and now I am stuck playing a job I am not having fun with. Might just boost PLD(74) or WHM(70) to 80 and shelve the class I want to actually play.
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hevens View Post
    I miss Elixir field ogcd a lot more than I probably should,

    I don't understand why they made Flint Strike the skill that gets replaced...
    It was a new ability, instead it's Elixir Field that stays the same?
    Like instead of letting us use a new ability at 90 they just prioritized an old ogcd and turned it into a gcd instead lol?

    Edit: Also I hate the Disciplined Fists icon, it looks too similar to a lot of other stuff and just blends together it's way harder to see than the old Twin Snakes.
    I dunno why they changed this they did it on DRG and SAM too for the worse.

    On SAM I thought that the red was going to be the damage buff because that seemed logical, but nope it's blue = damage and red = speed???
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    Last edited by Kolsykol; 12-04-2021 at 08:23 PM.

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    Micela Arzur
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kolsykol View Post
    I don't understand why they made Flint Strike the skill that gets replaced...
    It was a new ability, instead it's Elixir Field that stays the same?
    Like instead of letting us use a new ability at 90 they just prioritized an old ogcd and turned it into a gcd instead lol?

    Edit: Also I hate the Disciplined Fists icon, it looks too similar to a lot of other stuff and just blends together it's way harder to see than the old Twin Snakes.
    I dunno why they changed this they did it on DRG and SAM too for the worse.

    On SAM I thought that the red was going to be the damage buff because that seemed logical, but nope it's blue = damage and red = speed???
    Given to the tooltips it´s elixier field which is getting replaced by the phoenix-skill on 86 and TK by phantom on 90. (Sry don´t know the englisch names yet.)
    Or do you mean something different?!
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssunny2008 View Post
    Given to the tooltips it´s elixier field which is getting replaced by the phoenix-skill on 86 and TK by phantom on 90. (Sry don´t know the englisch names yet.)
    Or do you mean something different?!
    It's the other way around.

    '' Flint Strike Mastery
    Lv. 86 Upgrades Flint Strike to Rising Phoenix. ''
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    Mike Aettir
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ssunny2008 View Post
    Given to the tooltips it´s elixier field which is getting replaced by the phoenix-skill on 86 and TK by phantom on 90. (Sry don´t know the englisch names yet.)
    Or do you mean something different?!
    No, Flint Strike is getting replaced and Elixir Field is staying the same. The 3 main Blitzes at 90 will be Elixir Field, Rising Phoenix and Phantom Rush.
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    Micela Arzur
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    Shiva
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Mikey_R View Post
    No, Flint Strike is getting replaced and Elixir Field is staying the same. The 3 main Blitzes at 90 will be Elixir Field, Rising Phoenix and Phantom Rush.
    Alright i see... there is a tooltip issue in german then. Rising pheonix tells me to open a Lunar Nadi instead of the Solar one. In english it seems all correct.
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    Last edited by ssunny2008; 12-04-2021 at 08:48 PM.

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    Cizal Cross
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 80
    I've played monk since arr and this is by far the worst the job has ever felt to play. Blitzes aren't interesting as they're currently designed, and especially not enough to warrant dumping every positional and every ogcd besides chakra based ones supposedly in service of them. Hoping for a miracle accident like in 4.3 again that makes everything work but more likely i'm just gonna end up switching jobs entirely cuz what's the point of playing a job that's basically just mashing together sam and nin's major mechanics in a worse way when i could play either of them instead?
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