Final job guides

[Hysterior]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/jobguide/battle/

As a SCH, sad to see this big Whispering Dawn nerf but I guess that was expected
Also why Holy III when no Holy II?

[Tsukino]

Also why Holy III when no Holy II?

Because of the English localization team's stupid decision to change all the spell suffixes to numbers that make no sense.

Like many past installments in the FF series, the devs have chosen to "skip" certain suffixes in favor of ones they like, so this new spell is "Holyga." Not nearly as weird to skip over a nonsense suffix, but of course the localization team changes all "-ga" spells into "III" so here we are.

[EusisLandale]

Also why Holy III when no Holy II?

Because rather than use the -ra, -ga, -ja that the games often have, and use in the Japanese text, they just use 2, 3, & 4 in English here. Holy upgrades straight to Holyga, so Holy 3.

[aveyond-dreams]

Adding numbers instead of the classic spell suffixes is forever one of the more ridiculous decisions that they seem to want to cling to until the bitter end. What's next, are we going to jump from Glare III to Glare VI? Holy III to Holy X?

[EusisLandale]

Adding numbers instead of the classic spell suffixes is forever one of the more ridiculous decisions that they seem to want to cling to until the bitter end. What's next, are we going to jump from Glare III to Glare VI? Holy III to Holy X?

That kind of got talked about when they were discussing Black Mage stuff. The High Fire/Blizzard 2 stuff specifically. Something about how they'd never gone past -ja before, so they'd be the ones to get to decide what the next suffix would be and kind of panicked at the pressure and opted to not and just call it High Fira/Blizzara. So unless they finally come up with one, expect to see more things become High X.

[Tsukino]

Adding numbers instead of the classic spell suffixes is forever one of the more ridiculous decisions that they seem to want to cling to until the bitter end. What's next, are we going to jump from Glare III to Glare VI? Holy III to Holy X?

The part that still confuses me the most about it is that there was a concerted effort to correct all re-releases of the games in the series that had previously changed them due to console limitations. At the time of FFXIV 2.0's release, the only game not to have the suffixes either originally or via re-release in English was VII because it didn't have any sort of remake yet. Like I basically figure there's someone at the NA offices in charge of maintaining the consistency, and I don't know how FFXIV got away with the numbers.

Seriouly, i don't really care whether it is a number or a suffix. Numbers have an advantage because you only need to look at the number and you know instantly which spell is the stronger one. When you see a suffix like "ga" then this is not clear and you have to look at the details of the spell. Numbers are more intuitive, IMHO.

This is the exact reason everyone hates them. Bunch of people seeing "Fire II" and thinking it must be better than Fire because it has a number on the end, when they serve completely different functions. Well that and the fact that it's completely un-Final Fantasy.

[CrimsonGunner]

Why ast healing spells not only have less mp but have faster casts -_-

[CrimsonGunner]

Compare to whm that is just check cure 2 to benefic 2 its same potency but benefic has even faster cast

[Hasrat]

Compare to whm that is just check cure 2 to benefic 2 its same potency but benefic has even faster cast

Because AST has to deal with weaving the card mechanic.

[Liam_Harper]

Compare to whm that is just check cure 2 to benefic 2 its same potency but benefic has even faster cast

It's been that way for the entire expansion. Diurnal AST was always WHM but with cheaper heals and better oGCD's. It's been straight up the superior healer for most of Shadowbringers after the rework, yet WHM's have been clinging to the idea that WHM is somehow the heal powerhouse. WHM isn't even that good as the beginner healer, its mana economy is terrible below 50 while AST gets mana from cards, has Essential Dignity and unlocks AspHelios much earlier than Medica II.