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    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daeriion_Aeradiir View Post
    No, you're missing a few keywords in the patch notes here. The 1st line refers to all content when its synced. Pre & Post stat scaling, all content should feel the same as it was balanced before.

    Epic Echo is referring exclusively to unsyncing content. Due to the fact our current scaling is exponential rather than closer to linear, each expansion's level cap is about 2-3x stronger than the previous one was. Meaning you're roughly ~15x stronger than you were at the end of ARR. This is why ARR & HW stuff is so trivially undersized, because you're so crazy strong comparatively.

    With the new scaling, gains will be closer to a more linear scale, meaning instead of being 15x stronger at 80 than you were at 50, you might be like, 3-4x stronger. this will have the unintended effect of making everything harder to undersize since you can't bulldoze through everything as you could before with insane stat lines. Epic Echo has been implemented to reverse this undesired effect when undersizing by emulating the strength you have currently pre-stat squish. Allowing them to keep their downscaling, while not butchering player's ability to undersize ARR/HW/SB content.

    So the stat squish was/is a nerf. It says only certain duties will have the new echo. So if I was running some random content to help someone or for WT and it took 4 mins before. If they didn't deem it important enough to get the new echo it could take way longer. That is very disappointing. Since I was sure every time I saw them mention it they said it wouldn't be a nerf.
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    Meridia Astra
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    So the stat squish was/is a nerf. It says only certain duties will have the new echo. So if I was running some random content to help someone or for WT and it took 4 mins before. If they didn't deem it important enough to get the new echo it could take way longer. That is very disappointing. Since I was sure every time I saw them mention it they said it wouldn't be a nerf.
    No, you are misunderstanding.

    If a mob had 10,000 health before the stat squish, and you hit it for 5,000 before the stat squish, it would take you two hits to kill it.
    That same scenario, but after the stat squish, would be the mob has 1,000 health, and you hit it for 500.
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    Law's Order Corselet is a nice Healer Glam for male characters and not just females. Good luck dying it though. No way am I grinding that all out.

    An issue I had with Memoria was that the reward for just dying AF gear wasn't enough based on what it was. I was hoping for some sick Garlean Armor like Varis was wearing and that was a huge letdown to me. Especially with how dirty they did Varis as a character.

    Even if he essentially is an Expy of Gestahl from FFVI.
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    Last edited by MagiusNecros; 12-02-2021 at 05:20 AM.

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    Someone mentioned Tellah earlier in this thread but why anyone would want to dress up like this as a healer is beyond me:



    Rydia/Rosa's gear just looks better for both men and women.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Someone mentioned Tellah earlier in this thread but why anyone would want to dress up like this as a healer is beyond me:



    Rydia/Rosa's gear just looks better for both men and women.
    Here you go.

    https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/g...age-of-mysidia

    Now I think for Female FF character costume sets they would need to include the hairstyles as well and Tifa's hair as well as Garnet have waist long hair which the Devs seem hesitant on including. Especially since we still do not have Iceheart or Hilda's hairstyles either. Which I'd prefer majestic long hair even if it would end up looking like a cheap blanket.

    Not to mention Fran's long hair either.

    Moving on regardless of how many male/female sets there are many can agree that girls look better in them in more ways then males do. And this is primarily for a looooooong time all the new gear is some kind of dress, robe or overcoat instead of actual armor.

    Which the men and larger characters absolutely SHINE in armor.

    Unless it's Halone's Armor because on men that chest piece sticking out is the ugliest thing on the planet making the female version much better by a mile.
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    Last edited by MagiusNecros; 12-02-2021 at 06:40 AM.

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    Malcolm Varanidae
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Here you go.

    https://ffxiv.eorzeacollection.com/g...age-of-mysidia

    Now I think for Female FF character costume sets they would need to include the hairstyles as well and Tifa's hair as well as Garnet have waist long hair which the Devs seem hesitant on including. Especially since we still do not have Iceheart or Hilda's hairstyles either. Which I'd prefer majestic long hair even if it would end up looking like a cheap blanket.

    Not to mention Fran's long hair either.

    Moving on regardless of how many male/female sets there are many can agree that girls look better in them in more ways then males do. And this is primarily for a looooooong time all the new gear is some kind of dress, robe or overcoat instead of actual armor.

    Which the men and larger characters absolutely SHINE in armor.

    Unless it's Halone's Armor because on men that chest piece sticking out is the ugliest thing on the planet making the female version much better by a mile.
    Seems like a subjective opinion to me. As someone who plays male character the only issue I have with gear in this game is that pants for the most part are of the skinny jean variety and we need looser fitting one.
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Someone mentioned Tellah earlier in this thread but why anyone would want to dress up like this as a healer is beyond me: [pic]

    Rydia/Rosa's gear just looks better for both men and women.
    Yeah, I'm pretty sure if they gave us Tellah as "the" mage pick from the FFIV it would only bring fairness because it would be complained about by both genders. I'm not interested in dressing up any of my characters like that.

    Also, both the caster and healer glamour are the same model (Rydia). Rosa is far more revealing.




    I don't think I'd use the body piece on any of my male characters, but some of the other pieces of Rydia's outfit should be useful. The boots look cool, the gloves are probably just the hand piece and not the flared sleeves and more headpieces that aren't flowers are always welcome.

    The pants might work with something, though the "just took the women's thigh-high stockings and filled in the bare bit" look always annoys me when they do that (as does the women getting thigh-high stockings again in the first place).
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    Last edited by Iscah; 12-02-2021 at 06:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Just like aymeric, thancred, urianger, Cid, alphinaud, papalymo, etc, etc.

    Don't act like they don't have an equal amount of male npcs on there too.
    While there are male glams on there, i’m pretty certain the female exclusive and feminine sets outweigh the males by a noticeable margin.
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by KizuyaKatogami View Post
    While there are male glams on there, i’m pretty certain the female exclusive and feminine sets outweigh the males by a noticeable margin.
    Just did the math. 38 female, 36 male. Not a huge difference at all.
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    Last edited by Valkyrie_Lenneth; 12-02-2021 at 06:35 AM.

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