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    Quote Originally Posted by Setesh45 View Post
    Auto callouts, markings etc. destroyed dungeons and raids in WoW. Instead of playing the game, knowing the mechanics you just do what an addon yells at you. Using such things has devastating effects, and it's a HUGE advantage over other players.
    It went so far that some fights now rely on you having the addon, and you cannot tell something is happening without the addon. This is a piss poor design and I support the complete ban of all these things.
    If you can't do it on console, it should be banned.

    After reading through the rest of the thread, it's obvious many people have no idea how deep and powerful the rabbit hole goes with many of these mods. Teleporting to bosses. Executing mechanics for you. Invulnerability. A quick google search followed by a few minutes of research is all it takes. They all manipulate the games code running in RAM the same way more innocent ones do. These are not LUA addons or jpg files or innocent changes. A line has got to be drawn soon.
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    Last edited by Xaruko_Nexume; 11-30-2021 at 10:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    If you can't do it on console, it should be banned.

    After reading through the rest of the thread, it's obvious many people have no idea how deep and powerful the rabbit hole goes with many of these mods. Teleporting to bosses. Executing mechanics for you. Invulnerability. A quick google search followed by a few minutes of research is all it takes. They all manipulate the games code running in RAM the same way more innocent ones do. These are not LUA addons or jpg files or innocent changes. A line has got to be drawn soon.
    So most mouse and keyboard programs would cause bans. Discord would be a ban till next year sometime. "You can't do it on console so it should be banned" is stupidly limiting to the point it is impossible to enforce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nothv13 View Post
    So most mouse and keyboard programs would cause bans. Discord would be a ban till next year sometime. "You can't do it on console so it should be banned" is stupidly limiting to the point it is impossible to enforce.
    Mouse and keyboard programs that do what? Allow you to set up macros so that a single key press executes multiple key commands? Absolutely. As they are in many other games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    Mouse and keyboard programs that do what? Allow you to set up macros so that a single key press executes multiple key commands? Absolutely. As they are in many other games.
    Impossible to enforce. I have not actually played any game which banned such programs and I've played pretty much every single major MMO out there. You'd also have to flat out ban specific peripherals. No MMO mice, no gaming keypads, and so many more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    After reading through the rest of the thread, it's obvious many people have no idea how deep and powerful the rabbit hole goes with many of these mods. Teleporting to bosses. Executing mechanics for you. Invulnerability. They all manipulate the games code running in RAM the same way more innocent ones do.
    Nobody on reddit or the Balance discord raiding community has ever reported seeing any of this, but someone rolls up on THM claiming they know the truth about some huge cheating phenomenon going on in raids constantly.

    Yeah right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    If you can't do it on console, it should be banned.

    After reading through the rest of the thread, it's obvious many people have no idea how deep and powerful the rabbit hole goes with many of these mods. Teleporting to bosses. Executing mechanics for you. Invulnerability. A quick google search followed by a few minutes of research is all it takes. They all manipulate the games code running in RAM the same way more innocent ones do. These are not LUA addons or jpg files or innocent changes. A line has got to be drawn soon.
    None of these things are possible with ACT or Cactbot to my knowledge. What you describing seem to be bots.
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