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    SionDurant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhalmel View Post
    You say that now but it might lead to a economic crash and burn if rampant rmt botting persists too long.
    Players control the economy, and well it's already dead. Costs 10 mill for the new weapons. Good luck with your theory there sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SionDurant View Post
    Players control the economy, and well it's already dead. Costs 10 mill for the new weapons. Good luck with your theory there sport.
    They wont be able to sell em for 100K in a month from now. bots will fill the market with them.

    Ages ago:

    3X GSMs 50 on the server.
    Markets had about 5 banneret lances in them and they sold for about 1 mil or so.
    A month or so later~~
    Server suddenly had like 70 LV 50 GSMs..
    Markets had 40+ banneret lances and wherent selling for 60K.

    Ya you are totally right.. it's just a theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhalmel View Post
    You say that now but it might lead to a economic crash and burn if rampant rmt botting persists too long.
    Good thing square preemptively crashed all of the markets by making the game hose you down with gil by looking at anything then.
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    Dashe Voln
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    Quote Originally Posted by Relic View Post
    They aren't bothering my gameplay experience in any way so it doesn't really bother me. If people want to let the game play itself, that's their loss.
    FFXI's economy around 2006 would like to have a word with you.
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    XI: Shadowtaru (Alexander) Manifest (Shiva) Volnaru (Asura)
    1.0: Delirium Impulse (Mysidia Gungnir)
    ARR: Dashe Herate (Sargatanas) Dashe Voln (Excalibur)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impulse View Post
    FFXI's economy around 2006 would like to have a word with you.
    This needs to be corrected: FFXIV's economy is nothing like FFXI's. For the most part, RMT can be bypassed completely in this game.

    Need Gil? Do Leves for a steady and sure income that Gilsellers cannot monopolize.

    Need items? It's easy to buy needed equipment and items for leveling up until about 40 just off NPCs for all jobs. Endgame equipment can be gained by doing instances leveling a craft, or directly contacting a crafter (And note, crafters are far, far more frequent in FFXIV than in FFXI.)

    Need Levels? If not doing Leves, all it takes is one Black Mage to power-level a character through. Leveling is easy as is power leveling, so there is no need to pay for such service.

    Literally, aside from being an eye sore and being bothersome on the auction (by trying to buy and regulate prices) RMT have no foothold here. World Bosses are ineffectual on the market due to Rare/Ex and the fact that crafted gear with Meteria will more often than not be superior - so long as Yoshi and crew keep to their policies.

    They effectively designed this game to neuter RMT efforts. It should be noted that not having an auction was part of this anti-RMT design. But it was a mistake to bereft the players of the convenience.

    This said, the Auction House will be the only thing that suffers from RMT intrusion - and that we can bypass by keeping our markets inter-linkshell or inter-company.

    That's not to say they don't need to be dealt with. But they won't be nearly as troublesome here as they were in FFXI, where money was scares and the market was easier to corner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    This needs to be corrected: FFXIV's economy is nothing like FFXI's.
    Yeah: FFXI has an economy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrist View Post
    This needs to be corrected: FFXIV's economy is nothing like FFXI's. For the most part, RMT can be bypassed completely in this game.
    RMT can be bypassed in any game, by actually playing it. Doing business with RMT companies is never a necessity. It's always a choice - the claims of some that "the game forces them to do it" notwithstanding. A game doesn't force you to do anything, up to and including playing it at all.

    The problem is there are people who are more interested in finding ways to progress by not playing the game (RMT, hacking, botting, buying power-leveling services, etc). Those people become the RMT's steady customers, keeping them in business, and keeping them coming back to the game no matter how often they're banned. So long as there are people who are willing to give those people business, you'll see them in-game.

    SE did a great job with combatting it via their task force in FFXI, once they dug in and decided to get serious about it. The Getting Serious part is what took them a while. Hopefully they'll be more on top of it in XIV.
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    Last edited by Preypacer; 05-08-2012 at 08:02 AM.

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    RMT in XIV hahah, who would buy money in a game that is so plentiful? XI you were hard pressed to make money. here its thrown at you. the devs know this so they are keeping the subscription money while these RMT make no return
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    Dashe Voln
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushy View Post
    RMT in XIV hahah, who would buy money in a game that is so plentiful? XI you were hard pressed to make money. here its thrown at you. the devs know this so they are keeping the subscription money while these RMT make no return
    You underestimate the laziness of people on the internet.
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    XI: Shadowtaru (Alexander) Manifest (Shiva) Volnaru (Asura)
    1.0: Delirium Impulse (Mysidia Gungnir)
    ARR: Dashe Herate (Sargatanas) Dashe Voln (Excalibur)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Impulse View Post
    You underestimate the laziness of people on the internet.

    yup I asked one and they said they havent sold any gil yet
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    Last edited by Mushy; 05-04-2012 at 02:21 PM.
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