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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    well right off the bat i know wow has an rmt task force too, they just dont publicly announce it(gms take reports and pass them on basicaly to be dealt with)

    then again wow also isnt afraid to piss off its customers by mass banning innocent people to catch a few bad ones....which i really dont agree with
    Indeed. I consider WoW/Blizzard one of the few I know of.

    Then you have companies like Sony Online Ent. who "combatted it" by embracing it and opening Station Exchange servers where RMT is sanctioned, with SOE getting a share of the money. Of course they did absolutely nothing to combat RMT on the other servers.
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    Some people say "cheaters are going to cheat" as if that's a good defense. Is this person with them?? IDC People break the rules IRL too and it causes an impact on others through many means. If you read the terms of service/ user agreement, it says to not use 3rd party tools. Plain and simple, no matter their reasons or justification. I have chosen a side, and that's the side of right not wrong.

    People break the rules, they cheat and maybe get away with it 'yaaaay'.... >.>

    "When you have no fear of repercussions or respect for you fellow persons and care only for yourself righteous indignation(whether it be a game or IRL), you deserve to made an example of. When everyone else is doing it the right thing, the right way, working hard and 'earning' their just payments, we don't need corruption around."

    Game or no game, if there's any sort of competition involved, your only as good as your "will to win" and succeed. What else can I say that hasn't been said already?? I just wouldn't cheat because I believe in liberty without restrictions! The more out-of-hand the game gets, more limitations and restriction are applied creating a more convoluted system. It's also giving the company more work and setting back more updates we as a community would rather have in the future.

    Please play fair or don't play at all!
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    Speaking about bots, The Vedis mentioned in another post having seen someone using a new hack/bot that gathers the same node repeatedly past the 8 strike threshold until the node is tapped out. Any other confirmations of this one existing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    Speaking about bots, The Vedis mentioned in another post having seen someone using a new hack/bot that gathers the same node repeatedly past the 8 strike threshold until the node is tapped out. Any other confirmations of this one existing?
    I wouldn't believe this, as far as I'm aware the nodes are delt with server-side which would be impossible for any bot to alter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    Speaking about bots, The Vedis mentioned in another post having seen someone using a new hack/bot that gathers the same node repeatedly past the 8 strike threshold until the node is tapped out. Any other confirmations of this one existing?
    Quote Originally Posted by Fear View Post
    I wouldn't believe this, as far as I'm aware the nodes are delt with server-side which would be impossible for any bot to alter.
    Baed on gathering the checks seem to go
    -Start-
    -Choose-
    -Cut-
    -Gain-
    -Check attempts left-
    -repeat-

    If you think about it Fishers can already do this when they fish at a random location that isn't a school of fish. If this is actually happening odds are hackers looked at the checks while fishing at a random location and found a way to imitate it so that they could make it happen at a logging/mining point. All they have to do is remove the check that says how many cuts they have left and they are free to cut as much as they like.
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    If thats true then its stupid, SE could very easily add an auto-detection tool for 9+ gathering attemps = instant ban (besides fishing)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fear View Post
    If thats true then its stupid, SE could very easily add an auto-detection tool for 9+ gathering attemps = instant ban (besides fishing)
    There are a lot of obvious and easy Anti-bot/RMT solutions SE could implement...and i'm still waiting for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    There are a lot of obvious and easy Anti-bot/RMT solutions SE could implement...and i'm still waiting for them.
    I think there were plenty but after Tanaka resigned his spot for Yoshi to take control it's hard to tell if FFXIV was as intended way before BETA. The experiance was purposely design around gathering & crafting. The think is, there were waaaaay too many casuals that complained about the new degenerative system(equipment breaks/ food spoils,etc.) and this... a failed launch in 2010.
    A game that revolves around actually working for your reward is something RMT doesn't like. It's not productive or a quick buck. Bots won't exist if the code wasn't easy to crack or the programming difficult enough to run. Yeah, thanks to Yoshi-P FFXIV goes mainstream and casual friendly with still enough room for the hardcore, the elitist, the socials and RPs.
    Everyone can't have it there way...if you could have everything YOUR way, what of the rest of us, I dealt with it in FFXI, I think I can deal with it here.
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