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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    Hit 40 white/black, manafication
    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    You do this til your mana is 80/80 black and white
    You don't actually want 80/80 though – you want over 80/80 and slightly uneven, ideally with a proc active for the higher element and (more importantly) not for the lower one, because you're about to trigger that with your Holy/Flare finisher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    You don't actually want 80/80 though – you want over 80/80 and slightly uneven, ideally with a proc active for the higher element and (more importantly) not for the lower one, because you're about to trigger that with your Holy/Flare finisher.
    That's definitely better, but it doesn't make too much of a difference outside of finetuning things, considering you can safely be at 0/20 and simply roll back into the rotation without edging into the blue. There's a bit of leeway there, so that kind of stuff kind of just comes with knowing the rotation better and getting more comfortable with the job. But if it helps, (though it'll be useless come EW until updates come along), Akhmorning recommends being >=80 on both black and white, so it's easier to say "use your melee combo at 80/80"
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    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    Akhmorning recommends being >=80 on both black and white, so it's easier to say "use your melee combo at 80/80"
    It's still better to say "over" or "at least 80/80" for clarity, I think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It's still better to say "over" or "at least 80/80" for clarity, I think.
    You're right, that's an oversight on my part
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    It's still better to say "over" or "at least 80/80" for clarity, I think.
    Or tell the learner to read the tooltip. Verflare/Verholy tooltip tells players how to get a guaranteed proc to Verfire/Verstone and that alone should tell players which finisher would be preferred.
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    Last edited by Rein_eon_Osborne; 11-30-2021 at 04:24 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Or tell the learner to read the tooltip. Verflare/Verholy tooltip tells players how to get a guaranteed proc to Verfire/Verstone and that alone should tell players which finisher would be preferred.
    If you're going to push the learner off to read the tooltips instead, that's your business. But if you're going to talk about how to play then it's better to give more accurate information.

    In any case the tooltips can be difficult to put together sometimes, following bits of information across several different skills.
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