Multiverse Final Fantasy MMORPG (What could have been)

[Temos]

If you make all the final fantasies the same art style it loses its identity. I will use Final Fantasy 9 as an example. 9 is chibi and that is what some people love or hate about it. take the chibi away and its not 9 any more it is something else sure it may have Zidane, Vivi and Garnet (Dagger). But it loses some of its charm.

So you want original stories to stories that have already been told. The world may be established but like I said earlier in a MMO you are the hero. So your character will overshadow the heroes of that final fantasy or they will overshadow you.

And that's why they made After years or 10 and 13-2.

[Jynx]

O and yes Final Fantasy didnt get its name from killing Kefka it got its name from Sakaguchi being that it was supposed to be the first and last RPG he would make.

Oh crap! We got someone pulling at semantics here!

My point stands extremly firm, Final Fantasy has never been popular for rehashing it's past games or storylines. The only cross-over that Square Enix is likely to do wont span far from Kingdom hearts and it's ill-fated Disidia titles. (Great fighting games by the way) Just poorly received.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but I can guarantee a main titled Final Fantasy game will never, be a multiverse-rehash. I will eat my shoes otherwise.

Every game in the main numbered series has been set in vastly different worlds often with vastly different gameplay. Some cross-over cameos have always been a staple of the series but straight out tearing them from other universes has never and probably never will be a mainstay in the main series.

Even if pulled off it would be neigh impossible to please the series fans, what happens when fan backlash about who is a better character Squall or Cloud, or Locke! Who is the more powerfull villain Sephiroth or Kefka? How about that Ex-Death.

SE would be wise to not touch these debates with a thousand foot poll as you can upset your fan-base far to easilly with this. A fighting game is one thing because it doesn't really show one character as more powerfull than another, but a MMO?
What happens when Sephiroth is the 50cap final boss of the current story. Few years down the road they raise the level cap and now Kuja is the big bad-endgame boss. People will Roflstomp Sephiroth and fans will rage.

It's just a terrible, terrible idea in my honest opinion.

[SafeOnBlock]

What about nerd rage dont you understand. If the goal is to service the FF fans, the last thing you want to do is fuck with the original storylines, characters, and art styles. That would just piss them off, and completely alienate the audience you are trying to sell the game to. This thread should be proof enough that *fans* care about certain things, otherwise they wont bother paying for what you give them. Your problem is that you *think* what the fans think is irrelevant. Have fun trying to sell a game like you're proposing to ppl who think its a bad idea. Its a bad idea precisely because fans don't like the idea, which makes this hypothetical game you are proposing a hypothetical *failure*. Not all ideas are good ideas, not all ideas are liked, not all ideas are successful. It should be clear to you that ppl just don't like it. Does it matter why they don't like it? No. At the end of the day when you are talking about an mmorpg, the only thing that matters is whether they like it or not. If they dont like it, they aint buying it..and sure as hell aint gonna subscribe to it.

Just move on to the next idea, christ. If we use this thread alone, so far your game is selling maybe 3 copies. And you want a company to throw a bunch of money at a fail project like that? When you garner a lot of positive community feedback, then we can talk about "what could have been". As this idea is not working, i suggest you work at a new one. So far, your game is a giant failure, and there's no way in hell SE would even *think* about it at this rate. Who the hell cares why ppl dont like it? You think SE runs around telling us to stfu, that we have no taste, or demand good reasons why we don't like something? No. We don't like it, we don't buy it, SE isn't stupid. They just say "okay" and give us what we want. Thats how the game world works. Reasons won't make your idea any more valid. If ppl dont like it its not valid. Period. Obviously the thread speaks for itself, so that is that. You are wasting mental energy over a failure of an idea (as the community sees it). No community, no game...obviously it didn't work out.

Since when has square given us what we want? Also I am a fan, I know a bunch of fans of the game that like the idea which is what spawned this post to begin with. There are a total of 10 people posting in this forum with opinions. Some agreed some disagreed. Some people dont even know what they want, and others wouldnt know a good idea if it hit them in the ars.

I get that not everyone is gunna like the idea. I have actually heard some decent reasons. Hell I know I wouldnt be 100% sure I would want a FFVII remake (one of my favorite games of all time) Because there are certain nuances that cant be portrayed the way they were supposed to in the original. Yet there comes a time when you take the bad with the good and if the good outweighs the bad then it may be worth considering.

[SionDurant]

What if they combined aspects of FF and the Ogre Battle series into an MMORPG...

Could have just made it more like FFT Online and it would have been just fine, and what I mean by that is copy the same style progression systems, classes, maybe even the same theme of story, several houses competing for control while unknown evils prepare to dominate the world.

PvP, Dungeons, Housing, Conquests blah blah blah would have been a no brainer in a world like that.

[PSxpert2011]

re OP,

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However, when it comes to fan-service and borrowed elements, no FF game does it better than XIV.

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Stuff that would be fantastic to see added to FFXIV:

• FFI : The four fiends with their own elemental dungeons
• FFIII: Evoker Class → Summoner Job
• FFIV: Visit to the moon, magnetic cave, Demon Wall
• FFV: Gilgamesh (or like FFXII version)
• FFVI: True Auction House, Colosseum
• FFVII: Ruby/Emerald weapons (maybe when the cap hits 90)
• FFVIII: Triple Triad, Quezacoatl as a Summon
• FFIX: Chocobo Hot and Cold, Treasure Map hunting
• FFX: Shoopuf style mounts for crossing special terrain into new areas.
• FFXI: BC fights, Nyzul Isle type dungeon, Large scale events, endgame.
• FFXII: Mob Hunts, Zodiac Espers
• FFXIII: Voice Acting
• FFT: Chemist/Engineer Class, more building on a "Job Tree" type system

Oh yeah! Stuff like this should've been done as a concept from the start but still the game has flaws stalling the initial break it needs to forfill it's true potential.

XIV has so many mistakes and draw-back that veteran of FFXI are thinking "WTF!". SE still hasn't shown what they've learned from FFXI and used what worked.
Example: Why isn't there a simple to use search function and can't I see the location of my party members while checking the list for details still?

We need to help SE figure out the problems with 14(apparently-since they can't do it themselves) before 2.0 so these dreams, wishes and request can make light in a proper, professional manner.

[Renshi]

Why would this be weird and ridiculous? You know how weird some people thought Quina was? Or that time Yuna and Tidus forced them selfs to laugh in a horrible voice acted monotone voice or riding a damn whale to the moon? Yeah but without any thought you have labeled an idea weird and ridiculous before any sort of concept has come forth.

Again just another close minded individual. Do you have any sense of imagination?
Answer me this is there a chance it couldn't be weird and ridiculous?

I told you why I didn't like it, hope it was pretty explainatory~ In case just ask me!

[lordvr]

They could still do something like this. YoshiP said he wants to turn the game into a theme park. They could make portals to other FF worlds where you fight famous bosses, or replay memorable parts of the old games. Blizzard did it on WoW with caverns of time having ppl replay stuff supposedly from the old RTS games.

[SafeOnBlock]

I told you why I didn't like it, hope it was pretty explainatory~ In case just ask me!

Still didint answer the question:

Is there a chance the game could be good?

[MikkoAkure]

Still didint answer the question:

Is there a chance the game could be good?

Everybody's replies summed up:

The short answer: No.

The long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

[Lux_Rayna]

Since when has square given us what we want? Also I am a fan, I know a bunch of fans of the game that like the idea which is what spawned this post to begin with. There are a total of 10 people posting in this forum with opinions. Some agreed some disagreed. Some people dont even know what they want, and others wouldnt know a good idea if it hit them in the ars.

I get that not everyone is gunna like the idea. I have actually heard some decent reasons. Hell I know I wouldnt be 100% sure I would want a FFVII remake (one of my favorite games of all time) Because there are certain nuances that cant be portrayed the way they were supposed to in the original. Yet there comes a time when you take the bad with the good and if the good outweighs the bad then it may be worth considering.

This is a pretty good example...the game we're playing now. SE does a pretty good job at trying to deliver to its fanbase. I think they deserve more credit than they are given. In any case, my point is that this thread makes it pretty clear the majority is just not on your side of the fence. It would be wiser to just scrap the idea, or modify the idea, or approach a similar idea from a different angle, rather than force ppl to give you valid reasons why they dont like it. The only thing that matters is that they don't. Valid reasons are irrelevant, all valid reasons do is salvage the pride of the person that came up with the idea. I'm telling you to drop the pride and move on to a different idea. You seem to be creative enough, and adventurous enough, there's no need to get too attached to one proposition. You've tested the waters, the reception isn't exactly positive, so try something else. Put on your thinking cap and go at it again. There's more than one way to skin a cat after all, and maybe aspects of your idea could work in a different form? Just drop it as it is now and come back with a vengeance.