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    Quote Originally Posted by SafeOnBlock View Post
    I bet you didnt play most of the Final Fantasy games either, I would tag you as someone who prolly started around the PS2 era and if that is the case I see why you would say such a thing.
    That's a cute little generalization that doesn't pertain to this at all.

    Transferring universes would be terrible because there would be no set design. It would piss off FF purists, and just not compliment those worlds.
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    How about this each game is a story-arch and when you are done with the storyarch you move to the next one. To keep longevity the MMORPG releases with the top 3 selling FF titles or fan votes. Going from there you create your vanilla version of the game with the three starting cities of said games as the life of the MMORPG grows you add expansions with another story-arch. With a little creative thought things can be done.

    Also what is an FF purist. I played the game since day one on the NES, as a developer you cant make everyone happy just the majority. So that argument is invalid. The hasty generalization is not invalid to the argument because if a person didnt play Final Fantasy games pre FFX they have no ties and therefore wouldnt desire such a game in the first place or is less likely too (nestalgia). Also it is common known fact that the golden years of JPRG's were through the SNES-PS1 era so for someone that started with PS2 they would have little to no backround on the subject.

    Think of fans like this
    Pre PS2 Generation
    Post PS2 Generation

    Their ideas of RPGs are going to be considerably different.
    Due to voice acting
    Not experiencing most of the famous JRPG's ever made:
    Parasite Eve
    Chrono Trigger
    Breath of Fire
    Xenogears
    Lunar
    Star Ocean 1+2
    Mario RPG
    FF 1-9

    You get the point
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    Last edited by SafeOnBlock; 05-04-2012 at 10:12 AM.
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    this sounds as cheesy as dissidia
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    Lol again why? Lol you all put as much thought into this as a rock. I just realized something. I think I am marketing this idea to the wrong demographic. There is a reason yall are playing FFXIV and feel that this idea is dumb. I bet if I took an honest poll most of you wouldnt have grown up through the "GOLDEN YEARS" most of you are PC gamers. Which of course would effect the comments and the way this idea was perceived. Haha I will not waste anymore time here trying to sell an idea to yall it was a bit stupid to put this on a FFXIV forum anyay.
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    I will leave this at practicality, developing cutscenes for one world alone takes so much time let alone cutscenes for 13 worlds and make sure they enough content every patch to not piss people that prefers "enters world name".
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    So what your saying is laziness. This mentality is why games are going down hill these days. Crank a game out fast so we can make a sequel. Thats a horrible argument.
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    Just because you don't want to read peoples' responses, that doesn't mean that they haven't put thought into it. To be honest, I think the idea that needs more thought put into it is yours -- just shoving the settings and characters from every previous game into one product doesn't automatically make it "epic," it makes it an unrecognizable mess. As much as you don't want to agree with it, what you're describing is basically Dissidia: The MMO. The story would be incomprehensible and it would reek of slapped-together fanservice from beginning to end. I'd rather take an individually-crafted world and story all on its own, thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SafeOnBlock View Post
    Lol again why? Lol you all put as much thought into this as a rock. I just realized something. I think I am marketing this idea to the wrong demographic. There is a reason yall are playing FFXIV and feel that this idea is dumb. I bet if I took an honest poll most of you wouldnt have grown up through the "GOLDEN YEARS" most of you are PC gamers. Which of course would effect the comments and the way this idea was perceived. Haha I will not waste anymore time here trying to sell an idea to yall it was a bit stupid to put this on a FFXIV forum anyay.
    did you like FF7? yes? and did you see advent children? did you think it was a good movie? no?
    that's what you get when you just do fan service for the sake of fan service.
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    Lol yeah i loved FFadvent children on blue ray when they fixed it. It was great. I appreciate the words put in my mouth. Again horrible argument.

    As far as everyone comparing this to dissidea just because that game again !FIGHTING GAME! was a mess doesnt mean that a multiverse game has to be horrible. In all fairness any FF game you mention within the last 10 years was garbage IMO. Voice acting was horrible, character design horrible, sequels horrible, the SE merger was the death of this company.

    Take from a writers perspective you can put multiple universes together make it both comprehensive and enjoyable. The fact that ya got a bunch of nay sayers just tells me you lack motivation, innovation, and inspiration. You got burnt buy one Multiuniverse game "Dissidea" and now all of a sudden all of them are going to be garbage.

    Also who said that all the universes had to be meld together? I didnt! Who said that Kain and Cloud would be meeting eachother and interact because I sure didnt! I dont know why you think this cant be done well and properly unless you just dont enjoy a challenge. It takes radical ideas to make something epic. Mediocrity is a product of safety.
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    So lets take all the arguments against the idea:
    1. Fanboy! :Thats partially the point is to reach out to broader audiences than just MMORPG fans. Take all the well made games that people have came to love and make an MMORPG that caters to the 85 million people that bought the games.

    2. Horrible Storyline: Well this is based on an opinion but how would you know it would be horrible if you didnt try in the first place. Hell even famous Authors have people who hate their works. Also this can be solved by not making it horrible.

    3.Cluster F**K: Does it have to be? Can people who made JRPG's for 20+ years not have the ability to not make it a cluster F**K? Again this comes down to the polar opposite you can make a good game and it wont be a cluster F**K. So that is a horrible argument.

    4. Dissidea!: was again a FREAKING FIGHTING GAME! Since when did they have good storylines..... O yeah never! On top of that it was a horrible excuse for a fighting game.

    Here is my argument:
    1. The success and failure of any game is due to the team who makes it. If anything I wouldn't trust such a large project to SE because they are a horrible company who has been going down hill since their merger. The only reason FFX was successful was that Sakaguchi had a hand in making the game before he retired. I argue that SE being balls is the only reason to not make this MMORPG because until they prove they can succeed in not making horrible games they shouldnt make another FF title.

    And you cannot possibly argue with my above statement because its not opinion but a fact. (Not the opinion of SE even though most people agree and critics agree.) But the fact that the success of a game is only truly the product of the production. Anything can be done if thought out and if enough effort is put in.
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