Button Bloat But Nah?

[Alestorm]

I'm fine with many keybinds, I've been using an mmo mouse since forever, that solves everything for me. I highly recommend those to everyone playing FFXIV on the PC.
Currently I use the Corsair Scimitar Elite RGB, 12 buttons right under your thumb, works like a charm.

^ this mouse right here! I use it and it's been the best money I've spent on a mouse. I also use Shift and Control modifiers and Q, E and R and never run out of buttons for skills. Only downside is sometimes my left pinkie finger gets a bit sore.

[MilkieTea]

^ this mouse right here! I use it and it's been the best money I've spent on a mouse. I also use Shift and Control modifiers and Q, E and R and never run out of buttons for skills. Only downside is sometimes my left pinkie finger gets a bit sore.

i just use 1-= keybinds, ctrl, and shift. if i really needed another modifier i'd use alt.

[RitsukoSonoda]

^ this mouse right here! I use it and it's been the best money I've spent on a mouse. I also use Shift and Control modifiers and Q, E and R and never run out of buttons for skills. Only downside is sometimes my left pinkie finger gets a bit sore.

I use the Logitech MMO mouse. Has the same number of thumb buttons. However I paired it with a Logitech gaming pad for my left hand that later was replaced by a Razer Orbweaver when the thumb stick broke from years of usage. I use the thumb stick to move my character and the keys on the pad for hotbar 1 and hotbar 3. Bar 2 is mapped to the thumb buttons on my mouse.

[Arrhin]

I'm fine with many keybinds, I've been using an mmo mouse since forever, that solves everything for me. I highly recommend those to everyone playing FFXIV on the PC.
Currently I use the Corsair Scimitar Elite RGB, 12 buttons right under your thumb, works like a charm.

Any M&KB player NOT using an MMO mouse is just living a lie. Sure, your good, good enough even. But imagine being better! Imaging having everything literally at your fingertips! For myself I use a Roccat Nyth, when that dies it'll probably be replaced with a G600. Cheap and good.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Any M&KB player NOT using an MMO mouse is just living a lie. Sure, your good, good enough even. But imagine being better! Imaging having everything literally at your fingertips! For myself I use a Roccat Nyth, when that dies it'll probably be replaced with a G600. Cheap and good.

I can't use those things, buttons are too small, and they cramp my hands. Downside to being a giant I suppose.

[RobynDaBank]

Any M&KB player NOT using an MMO mouse is just living a lie. Sure, your good, good enough even. But imagine being better! Imaging having everything literally at your fingertips! For myself I use a Roccat Nyth, when that dies it'll probably be replaced with a G600. Cheap and good.

Perhaps you didn't mean your first statement too literally, but I personally would get hindered more by using an MMO mouse because 1. the button placement looks awkward, no way I'm relying only on my thumb and 2. given where I live the fancier the mouse, the more easily they seem to break. My Polish friend has a Logitech mouse with 2 extra buttons and has gotten use out of it for 5+ years; when I bought the same thing the right click became unresponsive within weeks. Honestly the cheapo wireless mice I use right now with your standard 2+middle buttons has been more reliable.

[MilkieTea]

Perhaps you didn't mean your first statement too literally, but I personally would get hindered more by using an MMO mouse because 1. the button placement looks awkward, no way I'm relying only on my thumb and 2. given where I live the fancier the mouse, the more easily they seem to break. My Polish friend has a Logitech mouse with 2 extra buttons and has gotten use out of it for 5+ years; when I bought the same thing the right click became unresponsive within weeks. Honestly the cheapo wireless mice I use right now with your standard 2+middle buttons has been more reliable.

I'm gonna be honest, I thought it would be clunky to use too. But the logitech g600 is a godsend in that their buttons are made so you don't even have to look at where your thumb is, and for most people it's a pretty comfortable grip. It takes a bit to get used to, like most peripherals, but it took me maybe two weeks and now I can't imagine playing without it. My left hand only has to press ctrl or shift, instead of the number keys at the top, and my right does all my movement, and all my button presses, without causing me any pain ahah.

[ForteNightshade]

I'm fine with many keybinds, I've been using an mmo mouse since forever, that solves everything for me. I highly recommend those to everyone playing FFXIV on the PC.
Currently I use the Corsair Scimitar Elite RGB, 12 buttons right under your thumb, works like a charm.

An alternative to this MMO mouse, and my preferred one, is the Logitech g600. It's extremely affordable, usually on sale for $40 or less and offers a third mouse click. This allows you to bind that extra click to a modifier key (ctrl, alt, Shift), giving you essentially 24 grid buttons. Basically, you can program almost your entire kit on the mouse itself with this setup.

Perhaps you didn't mean your first statement too literally, but I personally would get hindered more by using an MMO mouse because 1. the button placement looks awkward, no way I'm relying only on my thumb and 2. given where I live the fancier the mouse, the more easily they seem to break. My Polish friend has a Logitech mouse with 2 extra buttons and has gotten use out of it for 5+ years; when I bought the same thing the right click became unresponsive within weeks. Honestly the cheapo wireless mice I use right now with your standard 2+middle buttons has been more reliable.

While it does take a little adjustment, you'd be surprised how quickly using your thumb to press most of your buttons becomes muscle memory. Obviously, this is entirely subjective but I've known several people who worried about the same thing you were and wound up preferring the mouse I linked.

[BaconBits]

There are 12 slots per hotbar and I have 3 hotbars dedicated to skills, potions, and marcos.

Make sure you have your Polos set up as well.

[Bsrking5]

Don't you mean a limit of 48 slots on controller? The 4th set of 16 goes to all jobs by default, which at the start of ShB had way too many crafter actions on it due to the button bloat on crafters.

Im in the same boat. I use less then 32 slots. First page 16, second page 16. None of the other stuff i could use. All my cooldowns on a hot bar so i can see when they are ready incase its not on the current cross bar