Button Bloat But Nah?

[Nethereal]

I'm kind of hyped waiting to play SGE so I thought it would be interesting to talk about something that comes up fairly often in my friend circles.

When SGE leaks dropped I had its keybinds already setup for when it drops along the way I realized that unless SCH & AST reduce button bloat I'm probably simply not going to play them.

There are 12 slots per hotbar and I have 3 hotbars dedicated to skills, potions, and marcos.
Another hotbar dedicated to skill CDs, and another hotbar dedicated to mounts etc.

If I counted properly healer hotbars should look something like this:

WHM: 23 keybinds 30 with LB + sprint + role actions(not including Repose).
SGE: 25 keybinds 32 with LB + sprint + role actions(not including Repose).
AST: 27 keybinds 34 with LB + sprint + role actions(not including Repose).
SCH: 28 Keybinds 35 with LB + sprint + role actions(not including Repose).

Eventually I might opt for a 4th hotbar and start using "ctrl+keybind" but as someone who utilizes the currently free spaces for potions & macros(Sacred Soil, Asylum, Star) I'm disinclined to bother leveling SCH & AST until I'm bored with WHM & SGE.

Do you have a class in a similar situation? If so how are you going to deal with it?
If not how do you feel about your job/class button situation and that of others that do suffer from button bloat.

[ItMe]

There are 12 slots per hotbar and I have 3 hotbars dedicated to skills, potions, and marcos.

Wait... what?
Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you're describing here, but this seems rather excessive.
Can you post a pic of these 3 hotbars please?

Do you have a class in a similar situation? If so how are you going to deal with it?
If not how do you feel about your job/class button situation and that of others that do suffer from button bloat.

Nah. All of my jobs fit now, and they will in Endwalker.
If push comes to shove and I need to make room for a few extra skills, I can always take return and a few emotes off my cross hot bars.

[Nethereal]

Can you post a pic of these 3 hotbars please?

WHM


SCH


AST

[ItMe]

WHM


SCH


AST

Thank you. I appreciate the context.
Also, dang, those are some nice looking hotbars~

[Floortank]

Some of my jobs feel overloaded, some feel just fine.

My issue is a little different. I have plenty of hotbar space, but not a lot of comfortable keybind space left. I struggle to make Gunbreaker as comfortable to play as the other tanks, for example, because I can't find a configuration that keeps my mitigation on the same buttons but lets me easily do the Continuation mechanic.

[ReynTime]

Controller user. I have absolutely nothing that I need in-combat that can't be handled within a limit of 32 slots... and I didn't even need to expand the double tap to more than 4 slots per side yet.

I do think this game over-bloats the actions for sake of making players feel like they're super engaged because there are more flashy buttons to press... But I don't think it's overwhelming.

[Rosa_Frandlia]

Controller user. I have absolutely nothing that I need in-combat that can't be handled within a limit of 32 slots... and I didn't even need to expand the double tap to more than 4 slots per side yet.

I do think this game over-bloats the actions for sake of making players feel like they're super engaged because there are more flashy buttons to press... But I don't think it's overwhelming.

Don't you mean a limit of 48 slots on controller? The 4th set of 16 goes to all jobs by default, which at the start of ShB had way too many crafter actions on it due to the button bloat on crafters.

[ReynTime]

Don't you mean a limit of 48 slots on controller? The 4th set of 16 goes to all jobs by default, which at the start of ShB had way too many crafter actions on it due to the button bloat on crafters.

Yeah the soft limit is 48. I think I thought of "32" because personally I could never wrap my head around all the shoulder trigger combinations possible, which is why I limit my double hold to only 8 slots. But the fact I still don't feel the need to expand my double tap to more than 4 slots each is what I wanted to emphasize.

[Vrankyl]

I have almost all of my classes keybinds fit into two hot bars for abilities. There are only a rare few, DPS jobs, that need a bit more but none of them are healers. In fact WHM, AST, and SCH have the fewest keybinds for me. Up there with MCH and PLD.

[Setesh45]

I'm fine with many keybinds, I've been using an mmo mouse since forever, that solves everything for me. I highly recommend those to everyone playing FFXIV on the PC.
Currently I use the Corsair Scimitar Elite RGB, 12 buttons right under your thumb, works like a charm.