Button Bloat But Nah?

[Nethereal]

I'm kind of hyped waiting to play SGE so I thought it would be interesting to talk about something that comes up fairly often in my friend circles.

When SGE leaks dropped I had its keybinds already setup for when it drops along the way I realized that unless SCH & AST reduce button bloat I'm probably simply not going to play them.

There are 12 slots per hotbar and I have 3 hotbars dedicated to skills, potions, and marcos.
Another hotbar dedicated to skill CDs, and another hotbar dedicated to mounts etc.

If I counted properly healer hotbars should look something like this:

WHM: 23 keybinds 30 with LB + sprint + role actions(not including Repose).
SGE: 25 keybinds 32 with LB + sprint + role actions(not including Repose).
AST: 27 keybinds 34 with LB + sprint + role actions(not including Repose).
SCH: 28 Keybinds 35 with LB + sprint + role actions(not including Repose).

Eventually I might opt for a 4th hotbar and start using "ctrl+keybind" but as someone who utilizes the currently free spaces for potions & macros(Sacred Soil, Asylum, Star) I'm disinclined to bother leveling SCH & AST until I'm bored with WHM & SGE.

Do you have a class in a similar situation? If so how are you going to deal with it?
If not how do you feel about your job/class button situation and that of others that do suffer from button bloat.

[ItMe]

There are 12 slots per hotbar and I have 3 hotbars dedicated to skills, potions, and marcos.

Wait... what?
Maybe I'm just misunderstanding what you're describing here, but this seems rather excessive.
Can you post a pic of these 3 hotbars please?

Do you have a class in a similar situation? If so how are you going to deal with it?
If not how do you feel about your job/class button situation and that of others that do suffer from button bloat.

Nah. All of my jobs fit now, and they will in Endwalker.
If push comes to shove and I need to make room for a few extra skills, I can always take return and a few emotes off my cross hot bars.

[Floortank]

Some of my jobs feel overloaded, some feel just fine.

My issue is a little different. I have plenty of hotbar space, but not a lot of comfortable keybind space left. I struggle to make Gunbreaker as comfortable to play as the other tanks, for example, because I can't find a configuration that keeps my mitigation on the same buttons but lets me easily do the Continuation mechanic.

[ReynTime]

Controller user. I have absolutely nothing that I need in-combat that can't be handled within a limit of 32 slots... and I didn't even need to expand the double tap to more than 4 slots per side yet.

I do think this game over-bloats the actions for sake of making players feel like they're super engaged because there are more flashy buttons to press... But I don't think it's overwhelming.

[Vrankyl]

I have almost all of my classes keybinds fit into two hot bars for abilities. There are only a rare few, DPS jobs, that need a bit more but none of them are healers. In fact WHM, AST, and SCH have the fewest keybinds for me. Up there with MCH and PLD.

[Setesh45]

I'm fine with many keybinds, I've been using an mmo mouse since forever, that solves everything for me. I highly recommend those to everyone playing FFXIV on the PC.
Currently I use the Corsair Scimitar Elite RGB, 12 buttons right under your thumb, works like a charm.

[Rosa_Frandlia]

Controller user. I have absolutely nothing that I need in-combat that can't be handled within a limit of 32 slots... and I didn't even need to expand the double tap to more than 4 slots per side yet.

I do think this game over-bloats the actions for sake of making players feel like they're super engaged because there are more flashy buttons to press... But I don't think it's overwhelming.

Don't you mean a limit of 48 slots on controller? The 4th set of 16 goes to all jobs by default, which at the start of ShB had way too many crafter actions on it due to the button bloat on crafters.

[BaconBits]

There are 12 slots per hotbar and I have 3 hotbars dedicated to skills, potions, and marcos.

Make sure you have your Polos set up as well.

[Bsrking5]

Don't you mean a limit of 48 slots on controller? The 4th set of 16 goes to all jobs by default, which at the start of ShB had way too many crafter actions on it due to the button bloat on crafters.

Im in the same boat. I use less then 32 slots. First page 16, second page 16. None of the other stuff i could use. All my cooldowns on a hot bar so i can see when they are ready incase its not on the current cross bar

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

I too had been chatting with my friend regarding the hotbar concerns. On paper, it does worries me. But I won't know for sure until the expansion drops.

I'm that kind of player who likes to have all possible buttons existing in the hotbar however impractical. To this point I have no actual gameplay problem despite all the extras with 4 active combat hotbars (waymarks and markers aren't included). Coming EW though I'll have to shift buttons priorities and/or make room for additional actions such as (speaking of healers mainly):

1. SCH: Expedient & Protraction, with no buttons to delete. Maybe -now- I'm going to consider removing Repose from the hotbar but I digress, until I get my firsthand experience. I'll shift Protraction and Union to higher in priority list so now I actually have to give them a reliable hotkey to press... and I am soon running out of options for that.
2. AST: Macrocosmos, Astrodyne, Exaltation, Lord/Lady, and Crown Play. Sects buttons are removed (?) so that frees up 2 additional slots, but these two slots are not one that is convenient to utilize mid combat so I'll have to shift other buttons priorities and decide which button gets to take their place now. Lord/Lady & Crown Play will essentially replace MA and Sleeve's hotkeys. Exaltation will probably need a new, more practical hotkey for me... it's probably time to move Benefic I faaarr away.
3. WHM: Aquaveil and Lilybell. Fluid Aura is removed so that's 1 less button to press. Then again, since when WHM has any trouble in term of button bloats in ShB+ and beyond?
4. NIN: I haven't read much into NIN's released media tour toolkit, but currently my NIN's hotbar is so -full-. I'm worried I'll have to start doing weird combination of key inputs.

I leave some slots empty intentionally to be filled accordingly with communication macro, tinctures, potions, depending on what I'm going to run. These are all the buttons that I manually click 100%, and I'm generally very inconsistent. I may have to consider adding Sprint macro, Ethers, and LB button into this section in coming EW...