On Extreme Role-playing Within XIV

[Izscha]

If you find people who want to write with a character of that nature, then you can. Most people I run into tend to find it uncomfortable, not all that fun, and pulls at allegorical experiences they may have had IRL before and don't really want to deal with in their own hobby that's often just for... well, fun.

In my experience, most people who choose to write characters as such tend to be pretty mediocre at actually writing a character and just want to make a scene/make other people feel uncomfortable for the sake of doing so and not for any compelling narrative. It almost always comes off as just someone's edgy high school fantasy. Especially since the actual themes at play, the morality of the theming, the compulsion for someone to be as they are, the actual nuance in the behavior and what fuels it along with the motivation are never actually explored (and, even then, isn't really a whole thing you'd tend to get into with randoms wherever due to the heavier material), which is again, just clearly someone who wants to write Shock Value the Character.

The very same could be said about almost every RP players you know, ppl tend to be mediocre at writting and it has nothing to do with what they want to write, they just can't do it right and that's normal that's not an art for nothing.
Funny that you would tackle someone over it but only if they do stuff you clearly dont like.
And how many books did you sold yourself to have such a comment on others ?

[Alaray]

The very same could be said about almost every RP players you know, ppl tend to be mediocre at writting and it has nothing to do with what they want to write, they just can't do it right and that's normal that's not an art for nothing.
Funny that you would tackle someone over it but only if they do stuff you clearly dont like.
And how many books did you sold yourself to have such a comment on others ?

If you're going to write about delicate topics, you ought to write delicately.

[StriderShinryu]

I haven't really gone deep at all in FF14 RP so my experience is very surface level, but it feels to me like RP in 14 is less segregated than it is in other games where I have had more RP experience. In FF14 it feels like there's a lot more bleed over from IC into OOC, and a lot more of that "casual RP" happens in more public spaces. Because of that it's hard to find an appropriate space for the more out there RP and characters. It's a lot easier for people to be personally offended by or bothered by extremes when the line between IC and OOC isn't as clear, even if extreme characters and perspectives could definitely fit within the FF14 RP landscape.

[Wyssahtyn]

XIV roleplayers have significant difficulty in differentiating between IC and OOC on both sides at the best of times. Better to just not open that can of worms and stick to the meaningless Bar RP™.

[Thaciscokidd]

XIV roleplayers have significant difficulty in differentiating between IC and OOC on both sides at the best of times.

This 1000 times.


If you go looking for people to do this kind of thing with make sure you know them and know there limits of acceptable speech/actions. Also if you do find a group that can and will do this just be mindful of who is around you if you leave the confines of instanced areas. Offending a 3rd party will land you straight into the gaol.

[Caurcas]

If you're going to write about delicate topics, you ought to write delicately.

I disagree, people are free to wrote how they wish.

[Alaray]

I disagree, people are free to wrote how they wish.

I'm not saying people can't write how they want, provided it falls within the Square-Enix ToS.

I am saying that there's a lack of social awareness if you want to write a character that's just walking shock-value and expect people to want to hang around it, and I am saying that heavier, delicate topics should be written in a mature manner and not a childish one; with a group of people who are interested in exploring those topics.

The problem is not on the people for thinking your content's bad.

[Ranaku]

The reason why people don't like to play "bad" characters is obvious, it creates conflict and a bad light on yourself and most roleplayers want to stay in a good light. Most players want to run around in silly glamours in nightclubs and such and roleplay there a bit just to relax without thinking about either heavy character related questions (like is my family alive, where do i come from, what are my morals?). They just want to have a good time, which is alright in my eyes no way of roleplay is really wrong, except forcing actions on others.

To the reason why "bad" characters are actually good, a story needs conflict and suffering and characters with different personalities which creates interaction. I mean who would like going to a theatrical perfomance or movie only to see the characters be completely friendly to each other for some minutes before the credits roll? We humans like stuff we can relate to and a story often only gets relatable when writers put a good amount of conflict and suffering into it and struggles a (or the) characters can either succumb to or overcome. Also different good and bad traits make a character also more relatable, showing that everyone has flaws they have to deal with.

This form of narrative and storydriven roleplay is more for groups or places where you know this kind of thought into a character is actually liked and approved. Not your usual nightclub venue or a open roleplay spot. In my experience the best time you can have with such characters lies in FCs which play basically like the tabletop roleplayers. Cause they want a immersive world where they know there are characters that are actually more than just catears and boobs.

Thus said, again every form of roleplay is valid. Don't flame other people for not playing your way, rather search yourself the group that does play like you and find a home there.

[ItMe]

To some (myself included) the idea behind RP is being able to act out such roles in the way that an actor does in a play. Although everyone has different preferences, to me the notion that I need to be comfortable with being something IRL in order to RP it is simply irrelevant.

I don't need to be comfortable with being something IRL to RP it though.
I have been my D&D group's regular DM for almost 20 years. I've had to play the parts of all sorts of morally devoid characters.

But there, the characters are driving the narrative and serving a point.
To just RP a racist because... what... that's fun?
That I don't get.

Rping a garlean or ascian sounds super fun tbh imo. More fun than the typical "Bar owner" or "Brothel owner"

Yeah. That sounds neat.
I'd like to RP as an Immortal space wizard too.
I just, personally, wouldn't wanna RP as a

racist, xenophobic or intolerant

immortal space wizard.

[Caurcas]

But the Ascians are very racist (speciesist?), and intolerant.