On Extreme Role-playing Within XIV

[Hatfright]

Then better to have no rp at all. That'd be better than what rp has morphed into in 14, which is to say wish fulfillment and thinly veiled cybering.

Why tho? People are having fun on their own terms, that's all. Who are we to say they can't, honestly?

[DPZ2]

Then better to have no rp at all. That'd be better than what rp has morphed into in 14, which is to say wish fulfillment and thinly veiled cybering.

You appear to have a complete lack of understanding of the RP communities (plural) within this game if you truly believe such a gross generalization. Sadly, you can never be satisfied, as you see only this vague caricature of the actual RP communities where you might actually flourish.

I'd suggest searching for one of the RP Discords dedicated to this game, but with your preconceived notions of the entirety of the RP community in general, I doubt you'll take the time to actually look.

[RobynDaBank]

Well even if FF14 has no PvP which fully solidifies divides, it's still assumptive to say that every single person born in Eorzea is cooperative. PvP does not always have to reflect lore. In FFXIV lore there are Elezen discriminatory based on class and wealth (Ishgard wouldn't transform in one night would it?), there are territorial Xaela - somewhere in these forums there is an elaborate official thread about naming conventions which talks about all the Xaela tribes - and there's good old Garlemald. You can have a Garlean willing to be friends with Eorzeans - see Maximus, Cid and Lucia - and you can also have Eorzeans friendly towards the Garlean cause, right? Fordola for instance. Experience and life shaped their views.

If NPCs are allowed to have disagreeable views, why can't an RPer make such a character? Why is it suddenly different in RP? Sure, most of the "bad opinion" characters get painted as villains in the story (although I can't help think back to this one Hyur quest NPC at Hawthorne Hut labelling all Duskwight as poor thieves...) but they exist, right? Why not let someone who has opinions that don't align with yours just exist - heck, it's a fictional character...

I know nowadays saying "what happens in RP is only RP" is seen an excuse to hand-wave aggressive creepers or problematic people. I don't think it makes the statement any less true.

[Caurcas]

You appear to have a complete lack of understanding of the RP communities (plural) within this game if you truly believe such a gross generalization. Sadly, you can never be satisfied, as you see only this vague caricature of the actual RP communities where you might actually flourish.

I'd suggest searching for one of the RP Discords dedicated to this game, but with your preconceived notions of the entirety of the RP community in general, I doubt you'll take the time to actually look.

My notions of the rp community within 14 are founded on what I've seen of them over the 6 years I've played. Although I will say during the HW era it was far better than it is now.

[DPZ2]

My notions of the rp community within 14 are founded on what I've seen of them over the 6 years I've played. Although I will say during the HW era it was far better than it is now.

Just a question here -- is you main really on the Aether Data Center then? 'Cuz I've found that RP there is much less active than Crystal.

Siren isn't a world I'd normally consider for RP opportunities.

[Caurcas]

Just a question here -- is you main really on the Aether Data Center then? 'Cuz I've found that RP there is much less active than Crystal.

Siren isn't a world I'd normally consider for RP opportunities.

Prior to cross world travel I was on Jenova, but Siren has quite alot of "rp". Although its the kind I strongly dislike.

[yajnaji]

Greetings, and baiting title aside I would like to begin a discussion over fringe role-playing within the game. No, not the usual degenerate type often debated, but rather what is almost never discussed. That being topics such as role-playing a character who might be racist, xenophobic or intolerant. A Garlean loyalist who believes in the cause, or a Xaela ultra nationalist. A moral compromised character. I've found these types of role-playing within XIV to be almost nonexistent and even treated as taboo. More so than even actual unseemly roleplay of the other type. This is strange to me, as I come from other games that have a much more varied community when it comes to types of characters roleplayed. It makes XIV's scene seem stagnant and boring. Thoughts on why?

What a lovely person you must be behind that avatar.

[AnnRam]

Crystal Generation.

[Zsolen]

I don't RP in FFXIV, but I remember roleplaying in SWG a bit, when I was young. Everyone knew never to take offense to anything that was RP. And if someone was RPing and they encountered a non-role player, the non-role player would often play along anyway. It didn't matter if the RPer was playing a shady or even xenophobic character. Yes, the xenophobic characters were generally Imperials but the role was still played. Ironically, the Imperials players were often far more mature OOC than many of the Rebel players. Perhaps, they had an easier time separating themselves from their characters and seemed to have played roles of people they would despise IRL.

I think the aversion to less savory characters is perhaps a part of a false narrative of 'so many racists in X country.' As for actual people of low moral caliber, when you let them open their mouths, they will do themselves in. Going after random people, just in case, is actually beneficial to people that are actually xenophobic, because now they have people they can try to hide behind. It's also highly immoral to make such assumptions, and it's not even a political issue. People of various political views agree it is bad form to make these lofty allegations without actual proof.

Never had any lewd tells or any forced sexual behavior in other games either, but that's acceptable to some here. That's not RP but generally an act of either desperation and/or harassment, but its somehow claimed to be under the RP umbrella by those that do it and those that approve of these actions.

[Equitable_Remedy]

Protip: "I just really want to RP a racist" is, in fact, a red flag.