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    What is it you want Milkie? I have given you the reasons for taking down the issue and replacing it. I have owned my mistakes, example the error with the math and even apologized to the guy on here. Set kept trying to get a rise out of me and as soon as I did he went full snowflake. I am trying to make the game better with ideas about how to fix the years long housing shortage so that everyone can enjoy and with added benefits for multiple area's of the game.
    Also a question for you, Honestly who do you think you are? Who are you to call out anyone for either their opinion, or there reaction to someone attacking them through gaslighting. I don't have an issue with people disagreeing with me ever. I do have an issue with them silencing my opinion to something that is affecting me, by telling me the issue doesn't exist essentially.
    I have been respectful to you and will continue to be, however do not ever think you can call me out without a response because you aren't in a position to. If I am wrong I will gladly accept, but there is a mountain of evidence over the past number of years that proves my theory. Even endwalker is addressing this issue slightly, but not a fix, but which also shows the company knows there is a very real issue. You saying there isn't and by you I am not referring to you specifically, you are simply stating something that isn't true. Something each of you know isn't true if you are paying attention whatsoever to endwalker. So if you disagree with me about these issues, at least show some decency by bringing the facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moerdeth View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moerdeth View Post
    Wow Setesh has some supporters...
    Setesh on the other hand kept trolling me trying to get a "win" and that did not work out for him. Now his friend wants to try and claim one for him.
    If that is what you believe to be respectful then I'm bowing out, because you very clearly have zero idea what respect entails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    You have now attacked me personally 3 times, and your bowing out like you are a good guy taking the high road?
    Got it!
    Respect...
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    How about an apology, or do you not own your mistakes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moerdeth View Post
    You have now attacked me personally 3 times, and your bowing out like you are a good guy taking the high road?
    Got it!
    Respect...
    Personal attacks? Calling out someone's actions for being childish is not a personal attack. And I can't even begin to imagine 2 others that could be perceived as attacks on you as a person. However, calling someone a "small thinker,", saying they prefer to leave things a failure, etc etc, are personal attacks.

    Notice how In everything I've said, including my very first post, I pointed out your actions and refrained from discussing you as a person?

    And when I did discuss you as a person, I included the phrase "If this is what you believe --- then X." It is, again, an observation of your actions and not an attack on your person.

    With that said, given that you've shown that your words, are, in fact, what you believe to be respectful, I'm going to bow out, because it is clear that you do not understand where your disrespect lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormpeaks View Post
    No thanks. Housing is fine as it is

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    So we are the same I guess. You call me childish I am observing your actions, you said I am incapable of understanding respect, I said "small thinker" I am observing your actions, you say I am not willing to listen but I have read and listened to every one of your words. I am sorry for offending you also!
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    Someone call 911, Jojoya's overdosing on their own koolaid once more.
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    The only housing crisis is the complete dumpster fire of housing acquisition. I'm tired of hearing how awesome housing is with having absolutely zero chance of ever obtaining one. This having to click a placard for hours garbage hoping you click at the exact right moment to beat out the other people fighting for the same plot is just that...garbage. I love this game to death, it's my home now, but the housing system is truly awful. Can't even get an apartment on my server...so everything in the game remotely related to owning a house might as well not exist, even training my chocobo or changing its color.

    For all it's faults, ESO's base-game housing system is fantastic and should be used as a model for other games. I owned dozens of homes in that game and had already fully decorated several of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post
    The only housing crisis is the complete dumpster fire of housing acquisition. I'm tired of hearing how awesome housing is with having absolutely zero chance of ever obtaining one. This having to click a placard for hours garbage hoping you click at the exact right moment to beat out the other people fighting for the same plot is just that...garbage. I love this game to death, it's my home now, but the housing system is truly awful. Can't even get an apartment on my server...so everything in the game remotely related to owning a house might as well not exist, even training my chocobo or changing its color.

    For all it's faults, ESO's base-game housing system is fantastic and should be used as a model for other games. I owned dozens of homes in that game and had already fully decorated several of them.
    I do agree with you, ESO did housing right. Trophy's from clearing dungeons and raids. I displayed them all. I had 18 houses. That was my end game. FFXIV could learn a thing or two from that housing system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snorky View Post
    I do agree with you, ESO did housing right. Trophy's from clearing dungeons and raids. I displayed them all. I had 18 houses. That was my end game. FFXIV could learn a thing or two from that housing system.
    I'll be honest ffxiv has the worst housing possible. Even dcuo has it better, I can't think of one worse than ffxivs.

    Its not that what they did is "bad", its just the system is made to screw people over be it luck etc. That they throw out just for idk how many percent but its lower than 69% of players on each world.

    They need to pick a month and only work on housing plots/zones if they are going to keep up with a system that screws over the majority of players wanting in on that content.

    The sad thing is they seem to put more work into pvp which most people seem to not care about one way or another. Than housing that has massive amount people caring about it.
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    Last edited by FusiaRain; 11-27-2021 at 12:13 PM.

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