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  1. #1
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    elizeugba's Avatar
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    Alucard Pendragon
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    Lamia
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    Monk Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by ArmaDragkun View Post
    Seriously? Why even bother?

    I get it. We all get it, it's boring if you've run it several hundred times or more but still it's both stupid and arrogant to believe you're so important that 7 other people should have to run it without you because you're far too "busy" to help. Stupid because there will always be people like me who will call you out for being afk and then get you kicked from the group. Enjoy the queue as dps again.

    It's always dps players too. Never had another tank or any healer go afk.
    You know what you do with those ppl? you wait until the last boss and kick them before facing Laharbread. Make them waste 40 minutes (even though they are not actually playing, they still expect to get something out of it)
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    I generally try to check on them in chat because someone could be legitimately afk. It's also not common even when a group knows they're afk to boot them, because that slows down the break neck speed. So I think most skate by just by that sometimes.
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    Chyro Soulpaw
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    Omega
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Once had someone like that very blatantly 'afk' in Labyrinth of the Ancients.

    At first they just stood afk in the corner of the starting platform. When I mentioned them being afk, they suddenly showed up for the next boss - now standing around in the fight, not doing a single attack or using any skill. Sometimes saw them walking a bit, but not doing anything else.
    Like.. why? Don't queue if you're not going to play. They kept doing that through two bosses, then someone in the party started a vote kick and the player got kicked. I didn't cause I was worried with the new TOS about harrassment that kicking a player for not using skills could be reportable (for the person initiating the kick).
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    Velnora Pharetsu
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    Sargatanas
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Chyro View Post
    Once had someone like that very blatantly 'afk' in Labyrinth of the Ancients.

    At first they just stood afk in the corner of the starting platform. When I mentioned them being afk, they suddenly showed up for the next boss - now standing around in the fight, not doing a single attack or using any skill. Sometimes saw them walking a bit, but not doing anything else.
    Like.. why? Don't queue if you're not going to play. They kept doing that through two bosses, then someone in the party started a vote kick and the player got kicked. I didn't cause I was worried with the new TOS about harrassment that kicking a player for not using skills could be reportable (for the person initiating the kick).
    This is a result of directing players towards stale and boring content, via throwing a carrot to entice them to do it. *Roulette rewards*
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    Avidria's Avatar
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chyro View Post
    Once had someone like that very blatantly 'afk' in Labyrinth of the Ancients.

    At first they just stood afk in the corner of the starting platform. When I mentioned them being afk, they suddenly showed up for the next boss - now standing around in the fight, not doing a single attack or using any skill. Sometimes saw them walking a bit, but not doing anything else.
    Like.. why? Don't queue if you're not going to play. They kept doing that through two bosses, then someone in the party started a vote kick and the player got kicked.
    See, at least lota actually has fights. Prae is literally more than 30 minutes of just cutscenes. You skip the entirety of the first like, four pulls by literally running past them, and can meme faceroll literally every boss fight with three people.

    Like yeah I agree people shouldn't queue into content just to afk through it. I'll generally kick someone who's afk in like, an alliance roulette or something. But Prae?

    I think maybe it's because the design of this dungeon is so godawful, and my first run experience was so freaking terrible, but I just will never understand the vehemence people have about booting people afking in Prae. Like I just kinda laugh when I see it happen because you know what, it's fair. It's a bad dungeon with a bad layout and bad boss fights with, I'll say it, bad dialogue made worse by taking parts of it out (because I'm pretty sure we used to be able to answer Gaius), and it has frankly stupidly good rewards for the utter lack of effort or attention it requires.

    I guess I'm just unreasonably mad that this dungeon is so terrible that it's literally only worth doing if you one, have 45 minutes in a row blocked out or two, have something else you need to be doing but can spare the bare minimum attention to get in and collect the big exp dump. Like the only real reason to not afk through it is because if everyone does it won't get done at all, but it can still be cleared in roughly the same amount of time if half the group is even half paying attention.

    I think I'm just mad that Prae sucks so much lmao. Glad I don't have any reason to run it anymore I guess.
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    It's a bad dungeon with a bad layout and bad boss fights with, I'll say it, bad dialogue made worse by taking parts of it out (because I'm pretty sure we used to be able to answer Gaius), and it has frankly stupidly good rewards for the utter lack of effort or attention it requires.
    We did, but all they did was lock us to one of the possible options. So nothing really missing there. They just had to make the cutscenes move forward automatically instead of having someone able to pause there forever not choosing an option.
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    Thea Sitori
    World
    Gilgamesh
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    Scholar Lv 72
    Quote Originally Posted by Chyro View Post
    Once had someone like that very blatantly 'afk' in Labyrinth of the Ancients.

    At first they just stood afk in the corner of the starting platform. When I mentioned them being afk, they suddenly showed up for the next boss - now standing around in the fight, not doing a single attack or using any skill. Sometimes saw them walking a bit, but not doing anything else.
    Like.. why? Don't queue if you're not going to play. They kept doing that through two bosses, then someone in the party started a vote kick and the player got kicked. I didn't cause I was worried with the new TOS about harrassment that kicking a player for not using skills could be reportable (for the person initiating the kick).
    You can use vote kick when it's justified, and AFK is on the list.

    Just can't blatantly chat around saying you're going to kick someone cause you don't like them kind of thing. Some people do the courtesy AFK check just in-case they really had to step away. But of course people should say so if it's legit.

    Like in Frontline there are those people who don't contribute, just ride their mounts in a corner, or never attack. Teams have no problem AFK kicking people because there are good reasons to win. I remember there was a mentor that AFK and actually said they don't even want to bother cause we were losing. Nothing like putting the evidence in the chat log. I didn't say a thing and simply reported them.
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    Cody Asher
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    Maduin
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    Ninja Lv 96
    Monitors aren’t expensive anymore. Watching YT or Netflix while actively joining in on MSQ is simple and really fun.
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