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  1. #31
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    Silver-Strider's Avatar
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    Silver Strider
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    Famfrit
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    I've had to unintentionally AFK before because of irl issues, such as my dog throwing up on my bed or having to give my mother and grandmother their insulin injections. I do give players a heads up that I will brb but that hasn't stopped people from attempting (and sometimes succeeding) to kick me from groups.
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  2. #32
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    If they actually announce in chat that they're gonna AFK and get carried, then you can report it. If they just stand there without saying a word, then there's technically nothing to report.
    There's now a section in Prohibited Activities that specifically mentions uncooperative behavior, including refusal to assist your party in a reasonable fashion.

    If you queue for the duty, then there's a reasonable expectation that you're going to assist the group in defeating the enemies within the duty. If you aren't participating, then that could be considered uncooperative behavior if reported.

    SE isn't likely to take action against an account after a single incident but if the same player ends up reported on multiple occasions likely they'd do something.
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  3. #33
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    Avidria's Avatar
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    Avi Taro
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    Behemoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post

    If the content is intended to be low-effort, I want the content to be balanced in such a way that two or three people afk appreciably causes effort from those remaining. The community will happily sort itself out at that point if it's there to just get the roulette.
    Yeah, I mean, you can literally clear Prae with 3 people. People being afk makes maybe 5 minutes difference in a dungeon that's mostly cutscenes anyway. There's almost no actual gameplay involved at all.

    Like, I don't deliberately afk out of Prae runs (I'm also usually a tank or healer, so), but I'm also not gonna sit tabbed in watching a cutscene I've seen 50 times either. Spending half the dungeon afk is just the nature of the beast at this point. Lmao

    I'm just glad they haven't tried to repeat this kind of godawful design choice. Some dungeon cutscenes are still a little overlong imo, but not nearly this bad.

    So yeah. Any other dungeon I'm absolutely gonna kick a dude who's afk. Prae though? Honestly barely even noticeable. I think you'd have to actively try to wipe to anything in there at this point, even with half a group.
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

  4. #34
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    Van Arn
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    Yeah, I mean, you can literally clear Prae with 3 people. People being afk makes maybe 5 minutes difference in a dungeon that's mostly cutscenes anyway. There's almost no actual gameplay involved at all.

    Like, I don't deliberately afk out of Prae runs (I'm also usually a tank or healer, so), but I'm also not gonna sit tabbed in watching a cutscene I've seen 50 times either. Spending half the dungeon afk is just the nature of the beast at this point. Lmao

    I'm just glad they haven't tried to repeat this kind of godawful design choice. Some dungeon cutscenes are still a little overlong imo, but not nearly this bad.

    So yeah. Any other dungeon I'm absolutely gonna kick a dude who's afk. Prae though? Honestly barely even noticeable. I think you'd have to actively try to wipe to anything in there at this point, even with half a group.
    That's my biggest condemnation of Praetorium: if there's no gameplay involved, it doesn't really have a right to exist as a queued duty.
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  5. #35
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    Mirasa Thume
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    Hyperion
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    So I've been running MSQ roulette to level my DRK for role quest (I have no intention to tank in proper content, so I'm running the content that my lack of skill will have the least impact on) and wound up with two stories. One where the other tank AFKed, I just didn't grasp it till Ultima.

    And one where I didn't realise how tired I was until halfway through the run, tried to push through, and fell asleep right before Lahabrea. Woke up a few minutes later alone in a burning castrum with two new commends.
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  6. #36
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    That's a pretty common reaction to Lahabrea's speeches, really.
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  7. #37
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    Draelon Eldad
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    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    They could always not tie rewards to it.
    I would say enjoy your massive queue times. The only reason most of those people walk in Prae is because it gives a huge chunk of XP.
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  8. #38
    Player Gothicshark's Avatar
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    Marielle Sansoleil
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 90
    Who cares, I generally just push on through and ignore them if it happens. It's not often, and it goes by quick if you don't complain anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by ArmaDragkun View Post
    It's always dps players too. Never had another tank or any healer go afk.
    Well that's neat, usually for me it's the other way. I usually tank or heal, and half the time the other tank or heal just turns off and does nothing.
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  9. #39
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    Amarant Ventonitrua
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    Jenova
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    Honestly my ego isn't so big that I would get 'upset' because I am 'carrying' someone. It's petty.
    Please, tell us all how your ego isn't so big.
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  10. #40
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    That's a pretty common reaction to Lahabrea's speeches, really.
    and Gaius.. and Nero... omg they never shut up.
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