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  1. #11
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    Mirhd's Avatar
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    Ellisuur Muur
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    I honestly don't care what other people are doing in my 95th Prae run. If someone's lame enough to AFK, then fine.

    Since I remain front-and-center (except during cutscenes), I know that each encounter will be cleared by me pushing three buttons for twenty or thirty seconds.

    Honestly my ego isn't so big that I would get 'upset' because I am 'carrying' someone. It's petty. I'm not there to teach anyone a lesson. I'm not there to place blame and call out people. My "carry" results in one extra push of '3' and two extra pushes of '1'.

    I don't play the blame game in life, unless the blame is needed, e.g., someone afk-ing in a premade ultimate raid group.

    If someone wants to afk in Prae, it's literally not worth my time or emotion to care. I ain't no Elon Musk where I make eleventy-million dollars an hour. One minute of my time, especially when I'm playing a video game, isn't worth a damn thing.

    'But, but, Billy, someone needs to teach them a lesson!"

    Yeah, so you either speak to the person, or initiate a kick. Coming here to soapbox over random crap that shouldn't even upset you is very petty. If something like this sets you off, how are you going to cope with the real world, when you have to go out and get a job, and immediately realize that some people do more work, and some people do less work - for the same pay? Whoa... that's gonna set you off something spectacular if you can't even carry someone in Prae and ignore it.
    It's not "petty" or egotistical; it's not putting up with someone unwilling to push a few buttons. Prae can be cleared while half asleep and drunk for crying out loud, so there's really no excuse to afk. Period. Don't wanna push 1-3 buttons? You don't get the rewards.
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  2. #12
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    TheMightyMollusk's Avatar
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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Velnora View Post
    They could always not tie rewards to it.
    Then nobody would join the roulette and new players would get stuck.
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  3. #13
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    SherlottaEryut's Avatar
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    Katja Eruyt
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    Honestly my ego isn't so big that I would get 'upset' because I am 'carrying' someone. It's petty. I'm not there to teach anyone a lesson. I'm not there to place blame and call out people. My "carry" results in one extra push of '3' and two extra pushes of '1'.
    I don’t care. MSQ is about 35-45 minutes long & everyone should pull their weight. Why should one lazy individual do absolutely nothing and still get the same amount of rewards as everyone else? It’s not right and it’s not fair on me or the team. If I have to endure that place then so does everyone else who signed up to that duty.
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  4. #14
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    ArmaDragkun's Avatar
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    Quiet Wanderer
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    Lich
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Breakbeat View Post
    I honestly don't care what other people are doing in my 95th Prae run. If someone's lame enough to AFK, then fine.

    Since I remain front-and-center (except during cutscenes), I know that each encounter will be cleared by me pushing three buttons for twenty or thirty seconds.

    Honestly my ego isn't so big that I would get 'upset' because I am 'carrying' someone. It's petty. I'm not there to teach anyone a lesson. I'm not there to place blame and call out people. My "carry" results in one extra push of '3' and two extra pushes of '1'.

    I don't play the blame game in life, unless the blame is needed, e.g., someone afk-ing in a premade ultimate raid group.

    If someone wants to afk in Prae, it's literally not worth my time or emotion to care. I ain't no Elon Musk where I make eleventy-million dollars an hour. One minute of my time, especially when I'm playing a video game, isn't worth a damn thing.

    'But, but, Billy, someone needs to teach them a lesson!"

    Yeah, so you either speak to the person, or initiate a kick. Coming here to soapbox over random crap that shouldn't even upset you is very petty. If something like this sets you off, how are you going to cope with the real world, when you have to go out and get a job, and immediately realize that some people do more work, and some people do less work - for the same pay? Whoa... that's gonna set you off something spectacular if you can't even carry someone in Prae and ignore it.
    Sounds to me you're very emotionally invested in my forum post. Are you sure you're as cool and collected as you claim to be? Maybe you need to have a glass of water and chill because everyone else has been chill and you've come on like I've just made a 4 page post about afk players demanding they be beheaded and their family deported to a deserted island.
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  5. #15
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    zcrash970's Avatar
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    Quinton Lightblaze
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    NGL I fell asleep several times
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    I'm just some guy...

  6. #16
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    Alxyzntlct's Avatar
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    Alyx'ender Lutece
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    Faerie
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I've seen this a LOT of late, especially during the current Moogle Tome event. It's incredibly frustrating. It's gotten to a point where I've seen folks getting more stupidly "creative" with how they afk by standing with the group around bosses, or auto-following someone else.

    I always try to vote-kick if I see someone doing it, but because most of Prae is broken (because the first few groups get skipped) it's bloody difficult, so anymore I've started just reporting everyone I see doing it. I provide times and details, and the GMs seem to be highly appreciative of it.

    People not willing to do something as simple as play the game don't deserve rewards, period. And the only people I can imagine being ok with it are likely folks who do it themselves.
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    Last edited by Alxyzntlct; 11-20-2021 at 07:33 AM.

  7. #17
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    Poporito_Popoto's Avatar
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    Calamity J'aina
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    Rafflesia
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    Scholar Lv 100
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  8. #18
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    MilkieTea's Avatar
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Maduin
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    I personally call them out in chat politely.

    “Hm, I wonder why ‘X’ is still over by the first mobs? AFK maybe?” Then I will stop, typically right before Lahabrea, make sure everyone knows it’s about to happen, initiate votekick, and theyre kicked. This gives them plenty of time to get their butt into gear and join up. It also means that if they’re AFK for rewards, then they’ve just wasted 45 minutes of their life and now have to queue again AND go thru another 45 minutes again.
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  9. #19
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    ArmaDragkun's Avatar
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    Quiet Wanderer
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    Lich
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    I personally call them out in chat politely.

    “Hm, I wonder why ‘X’ is still over by the first mobs? AFK maybe?” Then I will stop, typically right before Lahabrea, make sure everyone knows it’s about to happen, initiate votekick, and theyre kicked. This gives them plenty of time to get their butt into gear and join up. It also means that if they’re AFK for rewards, then they’ve just wasted 45 minutes of their life and now have to queue again AND go thru another 45 minutes again.
    I'll always ask them for example "Everything ok?" or "You good?" Give them a chance ect but 99% of the time they are just trying to be lazy and as you said they get to enjoy another 45 minute wait!
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  10. #20
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    Thatusernameistaken's Avatar
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    Lady Lunafreya
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    Faerie
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    I haven't had this problem until the last week or so. But every Praetorium run this week has had at least 1 AFK. Since you don't leave combat until after Nero to be able to kick AFK players, we decided to wait until Lahabrea to kick both people. Zero rewards for them, and their replacements got the reward for almost no effort. It's a win win
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